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If they can afford ground beef at $4/lb why can't they afford things that are much cheaper?
Many of the poorer people can't really afford beef regularly, it's more of a once-a-year-treat. Source: Used to be very poor when I was a kid.
money isn't the only cost, there is also the matter of time. no amount of money saving would add more time to my day.
You can cook ahead of time. Go ask any single vegan how it works.
you have no idea whether that is time I can afford, or anyone else.
I know most plant food is cheaper than meat and that is true in almost all countries. That's because dry beans and grains are shelf stable and no meat is unless it has been processed which further drives up its price.
The fact is you don't want to make the change and that is fine but understand every excuse you are making here, except the bit about time, is simply not true on any level.
your rant about whether beans are cheaper is a red herring. it has nothing to do with what I'm saying, nor does your speculation about my motives.
No it isn't a red herring. You claimed vegetarian diets are more expensive and that is not true on any level in any country that does not heavily subsidize meat (and even most that do).
You are trying and failing to come up with reasons why you can ignore my claims and there is no logical basis for you to do so because they are true
where did I say they are more expensive?
"many people still cannot afford it, no matter how your arrange the facts."
When you said that. It's like your dodge where you talk about the time which billions of people seem to manage.
The fact is you are not willing to make the change and that is perfectly fine. No one is saying you have to.
there are not billions of vegans.
You need to pick a singular response and stick with it. You have sent multiple replies to the same comment
i know. what's you're point?
talk about dodging: this literally has nothing to do with what i said.
You replied more than three times to a single comment. It comes across as unhinged
characterizing me as unhinged doesn't make your position stronger or mine weaker
i'm not talking about billions of people. i'm saying you can't say whether any particular person can be vegan.
i don't see why you want to make this personal: i'm talking about bare facts.
it's not a "dodge". it's literally the basis on which i object to your assertion that everyone can be vegan.
I never said everyone could. That is bullshit you added all on your own
it was a clear implication of the comment to which i initially responded, and you're splitting hairs now to back away from your position.