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[–] f_lambda@lemmy.fmhy.ml 59 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Reddit’s CEO said he expects this blowup will pass eventually.

This was precisely the wrong thing for him to say if he wanted that to happen

[–] Gravelsack@lemmy.one 15 points 1 year ago

Seriously. Talk about poking the bear, he got me pissed all over again. Never going back to reddit now.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's because spazzy spez didn't think his internal memo would leak.

[–] EvilColeslaw@beehaw.org 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Nah I think it's clear he wanted it to leak. He's just an egomaniac who thinks he's actually a good leader. That section of the memo was for investor confidence. (It'll pass, no revenue effect so far, etc.) The other part about warning employees not to wear Reddit gear in public for fear of violence was meant for the press and for the uninformed, to try to garner sympathy and paint the protestors as bad actors.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Obvious tactic, paint the other side as violent and you'll get sympathy. Won't someone please think of the corporation.

Make no mistake, spez would love to see someone in a reddit tshirt beat up on the street. He'd be able to plaster that everywhere he could showing how sad his side is

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A false flag is a typical right wing move. I can picture spez doing it. He should pick some kid name Aaron just to make it that much more spiteful.

[–] riper_banana@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I dislike u/spez as much as the next guy, but man, that's dark.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

I mean there is a lot of money riding on this. I've seen people getting killed for 3 grand.

[–] HQC@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's working, too. The Forbes article which I saw posted either here or on Kbin didn't even push back on Huffman's claim that traffic from LLMs was the reason for the price hike, and I haven't seen any big publication use the audio or transcripts showing a slam-dunk case of slander (or libel, whichever one applies to text) against the Apollo developer.

[–] SickIcarus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

slander (or libel, whichever one applies to text)

Easy way to remember: Slander is Spoken. (They both start with S)

[–] EvilColeslaw@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The problem with the libel/slander is unless it falls into a few categories of what's called per se defamation, you're required to prove damages. (From the libel's/slander's damage to your reputation, not from something like Reddit's API change destroying his business.)

LLMs were just the catalyst for sure. They saw that as the opportunity to start milking all API users. They could have classified the users into groups and charged those groups differently, but they didn't, and here we are

[–] GraceGH@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

The other part about warning employees not to wear Reddit gear in public for fear of violence was meant for the press and for the uninformed, to try to garner sympathy and paint the protestors as bad actors.

Glad people aren't blind to this obvious ploy. When LGBT violence is at an all time high I don't think you need to be worried about wearing a reddit shirt.

[–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He expects so because he's going to have his admin staff de-mod all the rebels, open the subs back up, and ruthlessly ban anyone who says a word about the controversy. The user population that remains will eventually go back to sleep, and all will be well in Reddit-land.

[–] Blissingg@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol good luck finding new mods that will be any good after pulling a stunt like that. They certainly aren’t going to pay for any either.

[–] Clbull@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The News and Worldnews subreddits prove there are people still willing to lick Spez's boots.

[–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This. There will always be people attracted to power, even power as ultimately meaningless as being a reddit mod. Spez will enlist a new squad of wanna-be petty tyrants.

[–] Clbull@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

They could easily do that by:

  1. Threatening to site-wide ban moderators who keep their subreddits dark (on the basis that they're disrupting the regular function of the website.)
  2. Actually banning them if they follow through on another blackout.
  3. Doing a bit of overtime to moderate /r/redditrequest, on the condition that people don't request subs that already have more than two million subscribers.
[–] deephurting@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

They never shut down, along with a few other biggies. TiL just reopened.

[–] Ethereal87@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

I mean, the charitable read is the CEO of the company reassuring the entire company that they'll be OK. That's his entire job. Yes, it's a pretty crappy thing to say but we all weren't the intended audience. He's there to rally the troops and keep morale up.

That said, fuck u/spez and I'm way happier over here than there.

[–] Silviecat44@vlemmy.net 2 points 1 year ago

Every person counts

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's why I'm not sure that letter was intentionally leaked. He said all the wrong things for de-escalating this situation, he just added more fuel to the fire.

[–] daniele@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago

After reading his message I blocked Reddit at DNS level. I wasn’t planning to leave it completely before, but now I’m not planning to unblock it till when u/spez will be there.