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I'm currently in Norway, which is projected (don't have a citation) to see a 8 K cooling as the result of the AMOC collapse. I don't know how much warming Norway will have by 2050, presumably 2-4 K.
Germany is expected to experience 2 K of cooling. So potentially the net result is around zero, ignoring probability of extreme events.