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[–] LittleLordLimerick@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Telling someone to read Marx to understand modern day socialism is like telling someone to read Newton to understand modern day physics tbh.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, you're right. It's also important to read Lenin's works on imperialism to understand modern socialism. It's important to study Mao as well.

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

no, its not

its like telling someone they should read the bible if they want to be christian.

[–] LittleLordLimerick@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah, you should read Marx if you want to understand the historical development of socialist ideas, but if that’s where your reading ends, then your ideas are stuck in the past.

Socialism isn’ta religious dogma that is inflexible and unchanging. It’s an intellectual idea that grows and becomes more refined over time.

[–] GreatWhiteNope@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They’re saying that your take is so incoherent that you need to develop a foundational understanding of the basics.

Before you can learn calculus, you need to learn arithmetic so you don’t end up saying things like 2 != sqrt(4)

[–] LittleLordLimerick@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve read Marx, I’ve moved on from Marx. You guys clearly haven’t; or at least, you haven’t moved on from Lenin.

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I never stop reading marxist stuff, im fully up to date thanks.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Socialism isn't an intellectual idea though. It's not an idea we put on the world, it's a real movement that abolishes the present state of things.

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you read lenin, mao, sankara, deng, marx or any sociological text on neo-marxism?

[–] LittleLordLimerick@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

just some guys and dudes

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You just said this lol

I’ve read Marx, I’ve moved on from Marx. You guys clearly haven’t; or at least, you haven’t moved on from Lenin.

[–] LittleLordLimerick@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

That’s why it’s funny