this post was submitted on 15 Aug 2023
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Humans who run instances are real people who have jobs and mortgages and kids. I also like having piracy communities around to balance the greedy ass corporations trying to control media and copyright…I’m glad to know they are there if I need them or feel like screwing around with it. I just wonder if the people ranting all indignantly acting like instances are competing for their usership would feel the same if the most active instance was on a server physically sitting in their basement, or paid for by money tied to them in the real world. Yes it seems pretty unlikely that you’re ever going to run into issues with law enforcement, copyright claims, lawsuits…but how much would you risk for a fucking hobby you do for free? Would you risk your house? Your job? I would not. Grow up. No one cares what instance you use.

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[–] stephenc@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No, sorry. When you care about freedom of speech -- even when you take into account that hate speech is not freedom of speech and block truly bad, hateful stuff -- you have the responsibility to include everything that is truly free speech. This whole "butbut the law!" crap is cowardice and fishing for excuses. Someone running lemmy.world has a personal reason for blocking piracy and/or is a massive coward afraid to accept the responsibility of a free speech website, and either way, should step down and allow someone with the confidence and integrity to run a site that allows the free exchange of ideas (to the point of not allowing hate).

[–] spez_@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Host your own instance. When companies sue you, no one is coming to save you

[–] mysoulishome@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Please do me a favor. Host an instance that has 50,000 users. Allow everything that people want to post…porn, drugs, guns and piracy. Tell me you are 100% willing to go to jail or mortgage your house to pay your legal bills if it comes to it. Tell me you sleep just fine at night and never worry, or you do worry but you’re just so so so brave you do it anyway. Tell me anyone who wouldn’t do that is a pussy. I don’t believe you would do all of this and I don’t think it’s fair to expect anyone else to if you wouldn’t.

Just FYI, I upvoted your comment because I appreciate you expressing yourself but no one said Lemmy is a platform devoted to free speech and I disagree with everything you said.

[–] gowan@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im really hoping you are a kid still. Absolutist positions on speech are really ill founded.

The fact is you are asking someone to get sued so that you can have what you want

[–] stephenc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is how I know you're still young. Age will kill your idealism and you will begin to see life as it really is.

No one is getting sued because THIS INSTANCE IS NOT HOSTING THE FUCKING THING IN THE FIRST PLACE. Get that through your thick goddamn skull.

[–] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

0free speach is free speach except the kinds you don't personally approve of and now you are complaining that someone else doesn't have the same approvals as you.

[–] stephenc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok, Trump supporter. If you cannot handle free speech not including radical, hateful bullshit, get the fuck to some fascist country and live there instead.

[–] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, I disagree with your pitiful thin skinned bullshit so I must be an American who supports someone you don't like.

I see no flaws in your big brained logic here.

I would advise you to touch grass, but that's probably hate speech to you, what with that involving movement and all.