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Deferated from hexbear.net (lemmy.ca)
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Sorry (🍁) we did this without making a post, but after receiving several complaints we defederated from hexbear.net yesterday.

Here's a few quick examples of poor conduct by hexbear users:

They warned their users to behave themselves, but that didn't work: https://hexbear.net/post/280770?scrollToComments=false

Please read and respect the rules of the community instance in which you are posting/commenting. Please try to keep the dirtbag lib-dunking to hexbear itself. Do not follow the Chapo Rules of Posting, instead try to engage utilizing informed rhetoric with sources to dismantle western propaganda. Posting the western atrocity propaganda and pig poop balls is hilarious but will pretty quickly get you banned and if enough of us do it defederated. Realize that you are a representative of the hexbear instance when you post on other instances.

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[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They genuinely believe the dumb shit they say. Successfully indoctrinated cultists ready to be pulled by their puppet strings by anyone with the savvy and the need/desire

[–] EhForumUser@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They genuinely believe the dumb shit they say.

It is unlikely that anyone believes what they say, as why would you waste time talking about something you believe in? You already believe it. Your mind has been made. There is absolutely nothing more than can be said. Discussion is only interesting when you can learn something new, which means exploring the things you don't (yet) believe in.

There is good reason why every comment isn't: "Hay guys, did you know that 1+1=2!?!?" I expect everyone believes that to be true, which is why it would be rather boring to talk about. If someone says something, you can be sure they don't believe in it and have mentioned it because they are seeking more information for validation, potentially to make it a belief in the future should those discussions remove the outstanding doubt.

If you watch people, the pattern becomes quite apparent: Once something becomes a belief, interest is lost, and the talk about that subject will fade. They move on to something new that they want to find validation in.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yet you believe all that, and here you are.

Point proven.

[–] EhForumUser@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well, no, I'm not settled on it. It is an idea, but it has not made it to belief status. I'm talking about it, after all. If it were a belief, what value proposition would there be in such an exchange?

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You clearly think there is value in it, because you believe in it, want me to believe it too, and you are trying to convince me it's right. If you wanted to convince yourself, you wouldn't be talking, you'd be meditating. Yet here you are, arguing with me about it.

It's okay for people to believe what they say. Whatever it is you think will be true if people believe what they say but don't want to be true, it doesn't matter. Someday you'll see that.

[–] EhForumUser@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

and you are trying to convince me it’s right.

I'm not sure I see the logic in that. Of what value would there be in convincing you that it is right? I have no agency over your brain. It means nothing to me. I wouldn't try to convince a stone that I am right and the only difference between you and a stone is that you can speak back, hopefully offering knowledge when you do.

It’s okay for people to believe what they say.

It's okay, but what's the value proposition? It takes work to say things. The brain expects payment for the work it does. Knowledge can be sufficient payment, but if you have a belief no more knowledge can be acquired. It is final. I'm not receiving cash, a hug, anything. So, what is it that I have overlooked?