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[–] buckykat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 142 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's not just the Billet Labs thing, GN showed a pattern at LMG of rushing out bad test data and therefore wrong conclusions to keep up the frankly ridiculous volume of videos they put out.

[–] fireflash38@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's the sort of thing that makes me really, really sad for the people working there. That crazy breakneck pace cannot be good for mental health.

[–] buckykat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 83 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is the kind of thing a union (which Linus, of course, has said he's very against) would help with

[–] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

I kept thinking about that watching GN's last video and how it's so perfectly in line with what GN exposed.

[–] jwagner7813@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Unions, the bane of rich people that take advantage of their workers via positions of power.

[–] GravenImages@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They somewhat recently did a "what do lmg employees really think of working here" video, and it seemed like the #1 complaint was the pace. I really hope they take this criticism to heart and just... Slow down for a bit

[–] CoolSouthpaw@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

But they won't. Cos $$$.

[–] galloog1@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Part of the equation here is the transparency. It's good that they are transparent and I do think they listen. Part of the interesting side to watch is the interaction with the community.

[–] Nefyedardu@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I used to like LTT up until their "Linux Challenge" videos which were just a pain to watch. Shit like this coming from the biggest tech channel on youtube just drives me up the wall.

[–] Postcard64@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

After this happened, GitHub added a Download button to their for preview pages. So they themselves considered it was enough of a problem/inconvenience to not have a download button.

[–] catastrophicblues@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That bit made me cringe. You go to the file, and can download using the Raw button or using wget. It’s not hard, it’s ignorance.

[–] greybeard@lemmy.one 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It also has nothing to do with Linux and everything to do with how Github works. I actually give him a pass on nuking X while installing Steam, that shouldn't happen(although he did get a nice big warning, but that warning was far from user friendly). But some of the other stuff they ran into was "This doesn't work exactly like windows, therefore is bad." type stuff.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In that video he did everything that everyone recommends not to do when trying out Linux:

  • Never copy paste and execute random code from the internet.
  • Never execute commands on the terminal you don't fully understand what they do.
  • Never say yes or okay to any dialog prompt unless you understand what the dialog is asking about.

He is stupid, he paid the stupid tax. Linux didn't do any of the things that went wrong in that video, it was his own stubbornness and ignorance.

[–] Construc_@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

the problem with a lot of these recommendations though is that to a non-linux user: all code is random, and no commands are understood. you only learn by doing, and if you cant do until you know, you'll never get anywhere. you gotta make a few mistakes to learn anything, and thats what happened. yea he paid the stupid tax, but so does everyone else while they learn a new thing. that was the entire point of the challenge: how hard is it? and it turns out, quite! info is scattered, theres lots of commands and code that sounds like it'll do what you want but is actually a bad idea (as evidenced by the recommendations you point out), and things can break easily. thats the video.

[–] transistor@lemdro.id 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How would someone who doesn't use GitHub or linux know how to do that?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

GitHub shouldn't be a method of software distribution, but a lot of FOSS devs take the easy way out. Understandably so; they're volunteering their time. Still, Linus is in a position to show how it works rather than complaining.

[–] ours@lemmy.film 2 points 1 year ago

And to prove the point there was a website dedicated to taking GitHub links and turning them into download links.

[–] Nefyedardu@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know Linus is more of a hardware guy but c'mon. You learn git freshman year into any Computer Science-related degree. Failing that, 5 seconds of Google or ChatGPT even will set you straight. Maybe it wasn't intuitive, but I like think the biggest tech youtuber would have knowledge of something so fundamental to his field...

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

As I recall he was trying to use Linux as if he was a regular non-techy person. So it could make sense for him to do that knowing it's wrong. (Which wouldn't apply to "apt install Steam" yes do as I say issue, which was a regular user probably wouldn't have tried).

I don't find it completly unbelievable even a techy could make that mistake because they do not use version control software like git.

[–] Nefyedardu@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I really don't think he was acting or anything. Like someone else said, if he knew how it worked he could have used it as a moment to teach others right? Instead he just completely fumbled everything, said it was set up incorrectly and blamed the website for it. Which given recent events is such a Linus thing to do...

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would a regular non-techy person need to run GoXLR on Linux

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Audio creation is a hidden magic I know little of, so the same reasons as on Windows but they're sick of Windows? Do you consider an audio enthusiastic a "techy"? Perhaps I should have said "computer techy".

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I absolutely consider an audio enthusiast a "techy", and anyone looking to use GoXLR is definitely a "techy". Anyone who's found themselves on the GoXLR on Linux GitHub page and hasn't immediately closed the tab is almost certainly going to be knowledge enough to navigate a git repository, or at least be willing to put in more effort than downloading a single file from the repository then giving up when it doesn't work.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You could be right, I don't know enough about audio generally or the audience for an GoXLR.

[–] Deathcrow@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

ohh boy, I almost forgot about that. That was super painful. It's a website linus, not a file browser.

[–] sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 3 points 1 year ago

I loved watching him type out "yes I understand the thing that I'm about to do is going to break my computer" and then complain that the thing that he did broke his computer!