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I think that religion/spirituality and socialism can coexist (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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I hear a lot of people talk about how we need to look at religion from a materialist lens and that religion is incomparable with socialism. But I think we need to seperate the two. Religion is about the metaphysical so it's hard to look at it from a materialist lens. While politics deals with materialist matters, so it's necessary to view it with a materialist lens. And it's not like atheism is fully materialist either, with 'nothing after death', and 'universe starting without a god' being metaphysical explanations as well. And humans are naturally spiritual and to deny that, makes it harder for socialism to be accepted by people. But of course that doesn't mean we should tolerate the reactionary aspects of religion. We should combat it whenever necessary.

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[–] robot@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But there's also no proof that god doesn't exist, so the actual materialist thing to do is to be agnostic

Atheists are "agnostic". No one is saying "I'm certain god doesn't exist", we're saying "there's no evidence that one exists".

[–] KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In that case christians who are open to the idea of being wrong are also agnostic. You could use agnostic as an adjective to atheism, but I believe agnostic, as a noun, is the way to be truly materialist

[–] robot@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

christians who are open to the idea of being wrong

Do those exist?

[–] KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not all of them, but some do.

[–] robot@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like doubt is contrary to the whole idea of 'faith' but I'm not religious so what do I know.

[–] KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Faith doesn't necessarily mean blind faith

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

That depends on what your religion is and what your questions are IMHO