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I'm just curious about this. As someone with a chronic illness, I pretty much never hear anyone talk about things related to the sorts of difficulties and discrimination I and others might face within society. I'm not aware of companies or governments doing anything special to bring awareness on the same scale of say, pride month for instance. In fact certain aspects of accessibility were only normalized during the pandemic when healthy people needed them and now they're being gradually rescinded now that they don't. It's annoying for those who've come to prefer those accommodations. It's cruel for those who rely on them.

And just to be clear, I'm not suggesting this is an either or sort of thing. I'm just wondering why it's not a that and this sort of thing. It's possible I'm not considering the whole picture here, and I don't mean for this to be controversial.

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[โ€“] gelberhut@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, as far as I understand "pride" came as a result of years when people have to hide their orientation since in some contries it was a crime and so on. And "now" they do not have to. Actually, these days, I see pride as outdated and overused - either your orientation your private business or it is a public show you put on your visit card (in this case why others should consider it as as a "private").

Not sure to what degree this is relevant for disabled people. Outside or the pride, I see many things are done to include disabled people in sociaty: -Trains and buses have support for disabled people and special places. And a lot of info labels here and there

  • same with mostly all public institutions
  • many shops are equipped to be reachable
  • I have never seen people were rud with disabled people, and usually are ready to support
  • there is special oplimpic games
  • in schools there are activities to show children how the life of disabled people looks like in person
  • etc...

ould you show example of discrimination you are talking about - no prime month is not a discrimination (many groups of people do not have it)?

Here's an example of disability discrimination: many doctors' offices don't have any exam tables a person could get on from a wheelchair. If you don't bring a person who can lift you they'll refuse to see you. Even when I'm there to lift my husband some will say that's not possible, but we just do it anyway.

By not having a table that lowers (they exist and are great) nor having an orderly to assist, they can avoid dealing with anyone with a disability.

And they get away with it because the ADA has no agency of enforcement. You would have to have the time, energy and money to sue each individual inaccessible business in order to make them change, so the burden is on the most vulnerable population.

Airlines are worse, because the airline lobby got them excluded from the ADA entirely.

As for people being rude to those with a disability, it happens all the time. Kids asking questions is not rude btw. I'm talking about rude adults making rude remarks.

However, there is a Disability Pride Month (July) a Disability Employment Awareness Month (October) and even a Disability Pride Flag. https://www.womansday.com/life/a43964487/disability-pride-flag/

And we have come a long way since I was young. We just have to keep moving forward.