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New Footage Shows Tesla On Autopilot Crashing Into Police Car After Alerting Driver 150 Times::Six officers who were injured in the crash are suing Tesla despite the fact that the driver was allegedly impaired

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[–] daikiki@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The difference is that cruise control will maintain your speed, but 'autopilot' may avoid or slow down for obstacles. Maybe it avoids obstacles 90% of the time or 99% of the time. It apparently avoids obstacles enough that people can get lulled into a false sense of security, but once in a while it slams into the back of a stationary vehicle at highway speed.

It's easy to say it's the driver's responsibility, and ultimately it is, of course, but in practice, a system that works almost all of the time but occasionally causally kills somebody is very dangerous indeed, and saying it's all the driver's fault isn't really realistic or fair.

[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A lot of modern cruise control systems will match the speed of the car in front of you and stop if they stop. They'll also keep the car in the current lane.

It's frustrating that Tesla's system can't detect a stationary police car in the middle of the road... but at the same time apparently that's quite a difficult thing to do (without false positives, where the car would suddenly slam on the brakes and stop for no reason).

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's actually not that hard to do, but Tesla is not willing to spend the necessary time and resources to solve the hard problems.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Maybe it avoids obstacles 90% of the time or 99% of the time.

99 is not enough!

99 means many many more dead people.

You need to go for 99.99%

[–] ilickfrogs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually it's absolutely realistic and fair. I don't like Musk, or Tesla for that matter. But they make it pretty damn clear that you're 100% responsible for the vehicle when using that feature. Anyone who assumes they don't need to pay attention is a moron and should be held responsible. If a 747 autopilot system started telling the pilot to take control and they didn't we wouldn't blame the manufacturer, we'd blame the shitty pilot that didn't do their job.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

I can’t wait to get smacked by a Tesla beta tester and have everyone debate whether the car or the driver is responsible for my innards being spread across 4 lanes. Progress!