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But you don't need consent to record someone in public. If you want to have a private conversation, then have a private conversation. Having a conversation in public and expecting it to remain private is over entitlement in my opinion. You have absolutely no expectation to privacy in a public space, nor should you.
But we can, its the internet. Why shouldn't we be able to delete things? I'm not a ceo, I'm not a politician. The world has no vested interest in preserving a post i make. I should have control of my data. I seriously cannot fathom how anyone could possibly argue otherwise. I'm an ordinary civilian, and my data should belong to me and I should be able to have it deleted if I so choose. Note that every single massive social media platform essentially by law has to provide you means to do this. Lemmy should not be exempt from this. Whats the point of leaving reddit to join another platform that doesn't respect its user base? It's nonsense.
And I never said it was illegal (I specified the opposite actually), but its obviously wrong to walk up to 2 people sitting on a park bench having a quiet conversation between the two of them and record it without even asking them.
You absolutely do, and part of that control is not putting it out in public places. That is the reason I am so heavily involved in selfhosting.
I can't fathom how someone can be so entitled to think they have any expectation to privacy in public places.
I don't think that is morally wrong in any way.
Nice that you didn't comment on the fact that this is essentially law for every other social media platform lol.
Having control of my data means having control of my data, not having the ability to not post.
How you can perceive this as entitlement is beyond me. "When I delete something on this website can it actually be deleted?" How is that entitled??
You don't think recording people is morally wrong? You should try it sometime. I'm sure they'll completely agree. ๐
Even if a social media site deletes it, other people can screenshot it or otherwise archive it. So that doesn't matter. Again, if you want something to remain private, then keep it private... wow what a concept! Imagine thinking you can broadcast your voice and be upset when people hear and record it. Ridiculous!
If it's a public space, there is no expectation to privacy... it really doesn't matter if you or anyone else feels otherwise. I can't imagine being so irrationally entitled, it boggles my mind.
I dont care if someone screenshots it, thats not what we're talking about. Nice strawman. I'm saying that when I delete something, it should be deleted. I cant do anything about screenshots nor do I care. By all means, record everything I say here if that interests you. When I hit delete, I expect what I'm deleting to actually be deleted. Not an image some person took of my comment, the comment itself should be deleted.
You again ignored 90% of what I said, made a strawman and acted like you said something insightful when you beat it. Were not talking about screenshots, were talking about the delete function.
If your next comment isn't an actual argument for why Lemmy should be exempt from the industry wide standard of user data control, then dont bother sending it. Youre just making yourself look ridiculous.
You brought up recording a conversation between two people in public, my statement about screenshoting or otherwise archiving directly parallels this. I can't help you're too dense to see it.