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Joe Rogan Says It’s a ‘Fact’ That Jan. 6 Was a False Flag, Cites Ray Epps
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this post was submitted on 01 Aug 2023
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Fucking Spotify using my money to pay this nutjob really pisses me off
Vote with your wallet. Deezer is pretty good. I switched to them when Spotify decided I needed Rogan in my life despite their algorithm undoubtedly indicating otherwise.
I switched to YouTube music and have been happy with it. The family plan is about the same price as Spotify and includes YouTube premium which has been an unexpectedly nice bonus.
I’m kinda the opposite: I got YouTube Red (now Premium) to kill ads and got a music service for “free.”
With the added bonus of no Rogan.
Yeh because alphabet are way more ethical than Spotify
Far far better. While still being problematic capitalist whores. Who will shamelessly chase attention clicks and money.
There is a lot of trash on YouTube. And some of it is even monetized. You can correct me if I'm wrong. But alphabet has not paid for exclusivity or sought out any of those trash makers. The evil Google does is pursuing engagement. And the best most assured way of achieving that is through controversy and outrage. Google is generally neutrally evil. And while evil. It's still better then the other alternatives. Though I would genuinely like to see an alternative like peer tube someday be able to supplant them.
I will have to disagree. The reason alphabet don’t hire specific outrage manufacturers is because they already get their cut. They make a fortune from Jo Rogan videos and other conspiracy nuts through youtube. And they are more than happy to push these people to tops of our algorithms to capitalise
They're not pushing it to the top of the algorithms. The algorithms are driven by engagement. And outrage is one of the most sure drivers. You're attributing far more to Google than I think we can reasonably prove their involved in. Never attribute to malice what could be attributed to incompetence.
It's really nice to be able to watch YouTube on your TV and not have to deal with ads
Definitely. Between YouTube and my jellyfin server. I basically don't watch any other streaming services or live television outside of Pluto, or the currently airing season of what we do in the shadows
Recommend Tidal as well if you like smaller artists. The search feature is nowhere near as good, but the curated playlists seem better to me. And you're top 2 artists of the month, I think, get 10% of your subscription fee directly.
I do encourage everyone to drop all Meta platforms, but generally speaking "vote with your wallet" is ineffectual.
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.
Edit: choosing what makes you happier is never ineffectual, but capitalism is not a democracy. You can't "vote" out a company by choosing not to use their product, especially when that company owns many of the options or has control over the majority of the market.
Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
How is voting with your wallet ineffectual?
There's a confirmation bias at work here. The shitty things people didn't pay for don't exist.
A few people voting with their dollars is completely useless. You're also talking about an international business with more users outside the US than in it, who don't need to care about Joe Rogan.
https://observer.case.edu/why-internet-boycotts-dont-work/
https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/25/spotify-now-has-more-than-500m-users/
That said, I don't eat at Chick-fil-A because of their shitty politics. I understand that me not eating there isn't creating any actual change, but I'm still not going to do it.
People should absolutely feel free to make these changes whenever they want, but you should realize that Spotify has grown subscribers since you left and they don't care that you did.
Yes, but a useful "evil" thing will continue to exist because it is useful. The majority of people value something useful/convenient WAY more than they care about morals.
OldPersonDiaperSeasoning.com won't last because it's simply awful, but Meta/Amazon just won't seem to die no matter how many people hate it and choose to leave because it is useful.
I understand it's an unpopular opinion, but you don't become the size of Meta without leveraging significant market power.
Consumer boycotts have their place, but rarely exercise the same level of influence over a company than other methods of activism.
Meta can easily just buy the next most popular alternative anyway (as they have repeatedly).
Stop paying for, and using Spotify. That way you know that you aren't supporting him.
I switched to Tidal when he first started going on with the COVID misinformation. Haven't looked back.
same. Tidal is awesome
Tidal is not bad
Source: I switched to tidal when they picked up Rogan and started cramming his show down my throat
Highly recommend piracy.
It's hard for music unfortunately
Get a Deezer account and use Deemix to 'archive' all the music you'd be sad if it went away. Yknow, just in case.
Not if you use Soulseek.
Wait… Soulseek is still a thing? I have fond memories of running a client on our schools sever 20+ years ago. Let it download all night. Grab it once I was back in class.
Great times.
No it isn’t. Redacted let’s people in with a simple interview.
Then stop giving Spotify your money. Thats on you.
Yep it's totally unnecessary to pay anyone for streaming music.
Just obtain your own MP3s of the music you prefer, and listen to those files on your device. It's the 2000s way to music, and it's still the best.
Internet connectivity is not available everywhere, so you may encounter areas that streaming doesn't work. MP3 collections don't have that problem.
You can also get your own Plex server or something like that if you really just want to stream your music. That's another way to have your music on hand without bullshit subscriptions.
They even had the gall to put this piece of shit in my Recommended Podcasts feed. Back to SoulSeek it is for me!
I canceled Spotify for Tidal when they announced the big deal for him. They are not as good as Spotify at helping me find new music, but they seem less evil. I put "Rogan" as my reason from cancelling.
Fuck Spotify for using money to pay ANY podcast to be exclusively there.
Podcasts are an open medium that is decentralized and allows free choice of client and they are trying to monopolize it
I use a patched spotify apk for android and a spotify webapp with ublock origin on my PC. I've never needed to pay for premium and it works just fine.
Then unsubscribe and stop whining? You have other options available.
Use xManager. All the benefits excluding downloading songs. It's updated once in a while too