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What are some non-ML movements (past and present) that you guys strongly support? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by fire86743@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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Me personally, I find the EZLN fascinating. (if there is anything bad about them, let me know because I do not know much bad things about them)

They are one of the few movements that anarchists praise that I actually think are based, although the Zapatistas have told westerners to stop calling them anarchists, communists, or anything else.

They also fight against drug cartels and seem to have created one of the most stable territories in the Chiapas region.

However, they are too small to do anything big like overthrowing the Mexican government. They would be crushed quickly.

Give me your thoughts on the EZLN and/or, as the title suggests, any non-ML movements that you support.

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[–] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, alcohol wasn’t eliminated, but it was progress. Back before prohibition people drank alcohol like water, and the fact that most don’t anymore is good (not that there aren’t widespread substance abuse problems of other types). I suggest you listen to the Gastropod episode.

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I have before, but the reduction in alcohol drinking primarily came from the restriction, rationing, and lack of ingredients during WW1 and WW2 as opposed to Prohibition. It had a worse inverse effect, all it did was force drinking underground and made it a taboo topic to discuss.

Prohibition increased alcohol stockpiling which allowed most people to “ride out” the initial wave, and by the time many stockpiles ran dry, the mob and local moonshiners has established a strong enough network to maintain supply.

Funnily enough, one bar stockpiled so much alcohol prior to prohibition, that they were able to legally sell and advertise their alcohol for the entire prohibition since it was legal to sell Pre-Prohibiton alcohol.

[–] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I guess prohibition didn’t really succeed, but it doesn’t mean it wasn’t worth supporting.

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd rather support the prohibition of advertising alcohol. That alone would probably destroy the market in a generation.

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly. Target alcohol as the cigarette industry was targeted.

Don't ban it, but associate it in people's minds with cancer, pain, alcoholism, drunk driving, death.

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like any sort of prohibition is one of those things that sound incredible on paper, but rarely have any logistical or material chance in succeeding, and end in an ultimate failure.

It’s better to undermine the societal and cultural mechanisms that purport the problems posed by things like drugs, sex, and alcohol; rather then trying to magically ban it and create a criminal element out of a portion of the population.

[–] WIthoutFurtherDelay@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

sex is a problem! Volcel gang!!

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Volcel Police Vs the Sex Workers Union

A battle for the ages.

[–] WIthoutFurtherDelay@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

synthesis: give sex workers union, as people who have been directly exposed to the negative effects of sex, unilateral control over society