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[–] kinetix@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I think your information on what matrix does with metadata is outdated or over-encompassing, or both. Is your knowledge on matrix up to date? (I'm asking honestly because I immediately went searching for what the current situation with matrix is, and most of what I find with regard to this was heavily worked on in 2019 and 2020 - maybe it's still being worked on, but it doesn't seem to be talked about much any longer).

It sounds like, for all practical purposes, Matrix should be plenty private. If one needs extreme levels of privacy, I don't think you want to join an untrusted server, and definitely not join group chats. One couldn't pretend to be cautious and do those things anyway.

On, on a complete side note - (and here I am doing an edit) - were you aware that every time you edit and submit, you may be sending out notification emails? I got a new email notification for each edit you made on yours.

[–] poVoq@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah sorry for the notification spam. I did indeed edit a few times to make the message more clear.

I think my info on Matrix is pretty up to date. Yes message "pruning" in Matrix was indeed improved a bit in recent years, but the fundamental difference in system-architecture remains.

I can't say that I am not biased in favor of XMPP of course, but I think my original message is pretty neutral and based on facts. From a security/privacy perspective not replicating data at all is always better, even when additional safety precautions like e2ee (that do exists in Matrix) mitigate the impact to some extend.

[–] kinetix@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

No worries - I just wanted to let you know that the notifications were occurring. They probably shouldn't and I will be checking on Lemmy issues about it. (Just filed #1925)

Heh, I used to be biased in favour of XMPP until I did the full switch. ;-)