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And since you won't be able to modify web pages, it will also mean the end of customization, either for looks (ie. DarkReader, Stylus), conveniance (ie. Tampermonkey) or accessibility.

The community feedback is... interesting to say the least.

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[–] jflorez@sh.itjust.works 205 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This is the result of the world blindly using Chrome and other Chromium based browsers. Now with effectively full control over the browser that more than 90% of the world uses Google can force its will on the internet

[–] whereisk@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Given that Firefox is now faster than Chrome I see no reason to remain.

[–] ExFed@lemm.ee 44 points 1 year ago

Momentum. And it's likely most people won't be about to tell, or regularly run comparisons to find out for themselves. Theres enough value added to Chrome that people kind of assume it's "the best" ... It took me years to convince my boss to switch, but the one thing that did it for him was just that the PDF viewer is better in Firefox.

People have weird preferences that don't always line up with what software developers expect.

[–] Kir@feddit.it -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but isn't Firefox itself basically paid by Google? I can't see it as a threat to Google full control of the web

[–] Nath@aussie.zone 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Google is their biggest donor. They pay $$$ to be the default search engine in Firefox.

But Microsoft would happily give a not-insignificant amount to have Bing be the default search engine, and everyone knows it.

It's a symbiotic relationship. Google sorta need to pay up. Firefox needs the funding.

Google does not control the running of Firefox.

[–] Kir@feddit.it 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you rely on Google donation in order to survive, at the end of the day you are under some sort of control. I'm not saying that Google is running Firefox directly, of course, but if Firefox would grow enough to became a problematic competitor for Chrome, they would definitively have the power to step in. So, how really free can they be?

[–] FoxBJK@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago

Mozilla's definitely aware of this, but since all the competitors' browsers are free it's hard to make inroads on other means of profit.

[–] ky56@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I thought Google funding Firefox was the cheapest way to fend off an antitrust issue?

[–] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wait, is Google in the process of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish on the free internet?

[–] archchan@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago

Always have been, and they're in it for the long game. They've already acquired a stupid amount of control on the web and web standards with everything from Chromium to Youtube, not to mention it doesn't help that they basically control the world's most popular mobile OS. Google wants it all if we let them.

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And we saw this was going to happen at least 5 years ago. But since the majority don't care, we get what we deserve I guess.

Let's just hope this doesn't go through.

[–] Lev_Astov@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

A move like this sounds like a great way to end that monopoly.

[–] brihuang95@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i'm not really a tech-savvy guy here, so can someone explain if having DRMs like this would make ad-blocking near impossible for other chromium-based browsers too?

[–] GallifreyFalls@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

As I understand, if implemented, websites would basically be able to force you to see the page however it wants.

So if you view the page in Chrome, it might force you to not have any adblock.

If you view it in another chromium browser, like Arc, it could just force you to view it in Chrome.

[–] jflorez@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

It would also mean that you can’t use extension that modify the page, not only affects ad blocks but things like blocking Facebook “like” buttons or Google trackers. Right now we need more people to use non-chromium browsers, like Firefox, so hopefully Chrome looses market share and with it Google starts loosing control over the internet.