rglullis

joined 1 year ago
[–] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 1 month ago

"rendezvous instances" is a perfect term for them...

[–] rglullis@communick.news -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
  1. I am not planning to close any instances. I am not working on them based on their current activity, but I am keeping them for a scenario where a mass migration away from Reddit actually happens.

  2. When I say admins only, that can be extended to moderators as well.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 1 month ago

At least I don’t think we should discourage creating different places for the same topics

I'm not discouraging it. To repeat: the idea is not to push a "there can be only one" mentality, but to set up a system that can work well for the 80% of people who can be satisfied with the median case.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't mean universal in the sense of "totalitarian", I mean it in the sense of "large common denominator".

Do you think that the conversation around, e.g, python programming or wood turning techniques will vary so much that it warrants many specific flavors?

it’s likely to be skewed towards whatever culture exists in western english-speaking countries

This is good enough for most people and does not hinder the ability of those that are in the minority to create a different/specialized community.

Centralization/decentralization is a spectrum. No one is proposing to force everyone into a single box. The idea is only to combine efforts for the things that exist in common and to avoid unnecessary redundancies.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 1 month ago

I am not sure what "instance members" you are referring to, here.

The topic-based instances are closed for registration, so there are no users there.

If you are referring to the communick.news instance: it is only configured to have admins creating communities on it and the general instructions are to use https://fediverser.network as the place to discover communities.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I understand your concerns with moderation, but I don't see how what I am proposing would make things more difficult?

What would stop a troll to create different accounts on all the other different instances, or create another account whenever they get banned?

[–] rglullis@communick.news 3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

You are running an instance that is geared to serve people of an specific region. And I agree that they kind stay between the two extremes of the "group-focused" and "people-focused" instances.

The idea of topic-based instances are for the cases where the culture is more-or-less universal, but it doesn't mean that they should be absolute. So, if you want to talk about Apple stuff in general, !apple@hardware.watch would make more sense, but if you are trying to reach a group of Apple users in your area, then you can have a community on your local instance as well.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I realized the issue with "main" as the name after the second time I wanted to post something and realized that the domain name is not used in the search field. I'll suck it up and just create a new community.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 4 points 1 month ago (7 children)

If a moderator is from a different instance, can they effectively moderate?

Yes, I haven't had any issue moderating things from communick.news, even on communities that are not here.

But nowadays with Lemmy Explorer and with multiple community promo communities I think it’s not really hard to find the topics you are interested in.

This approach does not address two issues that would be resolved by separating "community instances" from "people instances":

  1. Centralization of communities around the big instances, creating a "too big to fail" scenario. Last I checked, more than half of the top 100 communities are on LW.
  2. Political/Ideological differences among larger instances causing needless fragmentation of the communities. E.g, there were discussions before about moving communities from .ml because some people didn't want to be associated with the Lemmy devs. Some were in favor, some were against. By having the communities on neutral ground, not only this whole issue is sidestepped, it also makes it easier for both sides of the table to be able to join one single community and make the overall fediverse stronger.
[–] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 1 month ago

I was thinking more about the frequent cases of Mastodon instances shutting down because the admins got either tired of dealing with moderation or unable to afford the increasing operational costs. Seems like every week we get at least one instance announcing they will close up.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 8 points 1 month ago

I didn't say that reddit's metrics were any better so your gotcha makes no sense.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 1 month ago

These are all different questions than "why do you think it these are issues to overcome?". Perhaps it was not your intention, but your original question came off as challenging OP's complaint.

What measure of difficulty of content discovery are you using to determine that it is difficult?

Get 1000 random people, ask them to list 3 to 5 of their interests and to find them on "Lemmy". See how many successfully complete the task in less than 5 minutes. Do the same on Reddit.

What would not difficult content discovery be?

  • A better onboarding wizard.
  • An unified search engine that index all of the content, not just what is available in an given instance
  • Recommendation algorithms (no, not all algorithms are bad)
  • Searching people by their interests
 

Highlights include Sliding Sync (instant login/launch/sync), Native OIDC (industry-standard authentication), Native Group VoIP (end-to-end encrypted large-scale voice & video conferencing) and Faster Joins (lazy-loading room state when your server joins a room).

 

I'm working on a tool that aims to do two things:

  • bootstrap Lemmy communities with content from their "equivalent" subreddit

  • help people migrate away from Reddit, by setting up a bot account on Lemmy that can be later taken over by their legitimate reddit owner. The idea is that the bot account would follow the equivalent lemmy communities and "registration" could be as easy as having the reddit user sending a DM to a bot to authenticate themselves.

I'm wondering how the people here would feel about me trying out this tool by mapping /r/python to !python@programming.dev ? My plan would be to set up a Lemmy instance that could exclusively be the home for the bot accounts, and then I would handpick a few posts every day to get them mirrored here, comments included. I also have in the roadmap to have responses to let users on Reddit to be notified of the conversations/replies received on the Lemmy post.

My view of pros/cons:

Pros:

  • Those who are already on Lemmy but stay on Reddit because of specific, niche communities will be able to ditch Reddit entirely.
  • More content in the instance, which would help mitigate the common "I want to move to Lemmy, but the content is not there" complaints.
  • A clearer path to migration and less time discussing "where to go if we are leaving reddit?"
  • Admins who object to this can simply deferate from the mirror instance(s).

Cons:

  • If abused, Lemmy communities might start looking like they are filled with bots only. Not really my intention, this is why I am not planning to fully automate this, but also not a big issue given that admins can easily protect themselves for instances that spam too much.
  • It's a legal grey area (though there are so many repost bots out there and I don't see how anyone would try to enforce copyright claims) whose support is mostly on the hands of reddit users.
  • If people look at it as a tool to help them migrate, we can win them over. If this feels too forced, they will more likely side with Reddit and refuse to migrate.

Anyway, please let me know your thoughts.

(Also, the code is Python/Django so if anyone is interested in contributing just let me know!)

 

With all the talk about expensive clients, how to fund the developers and big instances not managing to keep up with the influx of users, I’d like to tell you about my work on Communick and what I am proposing as an alternative model for a sustainable growth of the Fediverse.

Communick operates on what I believe the simplest and fairest model for hosting a service: instead of giving free access to every one and trying to recoup costs by donations or exploiting your data, access to all of Communick instances are based on cheap subscriptions from everyone.

How cheap? Take a look at the current plans. Mastodon access is $9/year and it can be as low as $0.50/month if you join with 10-people "group package". Lemmy access is $8/year.

Making it subscription-based brings a lot of benefits:

  • the instance only grows if the paying userbase is growing. There is no scrambling for the admins (me) to find a way to deal with a wave of users.
  • Moderation gets a lot easier. Trolls really are not interested in paying just to talk shit on the internet, and the fact that I will have their name on file means that they can't hide under the veil of anonymity.
  • You will know that the instances will be professionally managed and they won't disappear because the admins were over their heads, or because they got decided to run a service on a free ccTLD, or because of any case of extreme incompetence.

Other things that I hope can convince you to try these services:

  • I am pledging to give 20% of my profits (ie, profit = revenue - operating expenses - eventual salary for employees) to all the fediverse projects I am running and offering. By signing up with Communick, you will be helping Mastodon, PixelFed, Lemmy, GoToSocial...
  • The servers are in Germany and I am obsessed about ensuring that people can use my services privately and without being tracked. The reason you won't see a cookie pop-up on my website is because there is no tracking cookie that you need to be warned for. Logs and IP addresses are not kept and used for short-term uses like rate-limiting.

Last but not least: I'm offering FREE FOREVER access to the first 250 users that sign up to Lemmy. Please create an account on the main portal and then sign up for Lemmy. If your username on Lemmy matches your username on the portal, I will approve your access right away.

Thank you for your attention, and don't hesitate to ask anything.

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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by rglullis@communick.news to c/fediverse@lemmy.world
 

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