But it seems you are too ideologically blinded to engage with normal scientific arguments :(
Lets not resort to making assumptions about one another or accusing each other of being ideologically blinded. That line of ad-hominem argumentation leads no where productive. I'm arguing the material you linked and citing evidence.
You think using VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System) to talk about vaccine adverse events is misinformation, and I disagree.
From article: "Unfortunately, the anti-vaccine movement has used this once-obscure database to spread misinformation about the COVID-19 vaccine."
"Consequently, VAERS reports might not only document people’s negative experiences with vaccination, but also their attitudes toward vaccination."
"VAERS data could be seen as something of a double-edged sword. On one hand, it has been weaponized by the anti-vaccine movement and political actors on the right to sow doubt and distrust about COVID-19 vaccinations."
Claims of "misinformation" without debate/evidence is just cover for corporate censorship.
The entire piece reads like corporate pharma propaganda I can summaries as: "Nothing to see here folks. Bunch of right-wing loonies, am I right? These vaccines are safe and effective."
It's not just complaining about possible right-wing media data distortion, but casting doubt in the VARES system itself, which is the only signal we have for vaccine problems at the moment.
I don't agree that mistrust of big pharma is solely a right-wing thing. Big pharma has lied, often.
Fined $8 Billion for bribing doctors to up sales of Oxycontin: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/oxycontin-drugmaker-purdue-pharma-pleads-guilty-federal-criminal-charges-n1244155
Fined $2.1 Billion for illegal marketing of products later pulled from the market for not being safe: https://abcnews.go.com/Business/pfizer-fined-23-billion-illegal-marketing-off-label/story?id=8477617
$5 Billion settlement for a product that cause heart attacks and obstructing data to make profits: https://www.npr.org/series/5033105/vioxx-the-downfall-of-a-drug
$4.69 Billion verdict for women who developed cancer from using talcum powder, and pharma company knew and hid data: https://www.consumernotice.org/products/personal-care/talcum-powder/cancer/
Now they have this vaccine product, funded by federal gov to develop, and making record profits for themselves and their companies (https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/21/business/covid-vaccine-billionaires/index.html) and it's some how an anti-vax conspiracy to doubt their assurances of safety?
VAERS was made in 1990 to detect problems with vaccinations for a reason. They have had more events logged since release of these vaccines than all previous years, combined. It is also a felony to file false VAERS reports, so it's not a simple google form or some such thing.
The vaccines do not stop the spread or infection. They said they would. They lied. They said they were 95% effective. They lied. Now we need booster 3... soon it will be four, all the while the corporate billionaires are making obscene profits. They said lock downs where for 2 weeks. They lied. They said they wouldn't mandate, that it was not in the power of gov to do so. Biden and Harris said this. They lied.
They say the miocarditis in children it might cause is "mild". There is no such thing as mild damage to heart tissues. Any damage to heart tissues is dangerous considering the heart scars rather then regenerates.
Now evidence is emerging that it effects women's menstrual cycles: https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Wellness/covid-19-vaccine-linked-small-menstrual-cycles-study/story?id=82134301
Of course corporate media says it's no big deal (sponsored by Pfizer).
Point is they over promised and under delivered, by any measure. And then there is the censorship and mandates on top of it all.
Pointing this out and saying it's sus is not "right-wing" but what is a traditional left position of doubting corrupt gov/corporate fascist lies.
"@craftingwithbits@lemmy.ml be sure to tell all your friends: Lemmy.ml allows for Anti-Vaxx posts explicitly. There will be no censorship!
I’m sure this will end swimmingly. /s"
I see you are caught up in the emotions of this debate, as evident by your exaggerations. I invite you to take breath and recognize it is just a disagreement, no big deal. You have the rights to your views and I, mine. For the record, it is an anti-mandate march, not anti-vax.
Pharam has paid billions in fines for lying about product safety. There is room and reason for someone to be doubtful of their assurances of safety and we should have the right to make up our own minds.
This isnt anti-vax. If you want it, take it, no one is arguing against it or using force/coercion to stop you from taking it. But force/coercion is being used to force ppl to take it and that is what the march is against. The mandates. It's too much power to surrender over to the government.
I take it you are not going then. Freedom of choice is nice, isn't it?
Thanks for editing out the "anti-vaxxer" slur, but seems a little disingenuous that you remove it without mention. Can't you stand by what you say?
I won't be so quick to label you since I have no idea who you are, shame you just throw the word "anti-vax" at ppl who question the motives of big Pfarma and a war mongering gov, as if though they've never lied and questioning the corporate state is heretical. Didn't mean to rile you up. Just an honest disagreement. Go ahead, trust the corporate state and big pharma if you want, but I don't.
Oh really? Safe and effective, huh? Not like big pharam has ever lied about their product safety or bribed doctors to prescribe more meds. Why was Pfarma trying to push release of the data from their studies until 75 years from now? How many years of safety data exists for mRNA based vaccine use in humans? But go ahead, run interference for big pharma if you want while they reap billions in profits during a pandemic with a product that doesn't work. You do you I guess.
Its sad to watch empathy erode over disagreement over an experimental pharma product that does not stop the spread or infection
I see big pharma, fined billions of dollars for literally lying about product safety to make profit.
I see corporate sponsored gov that lied us into Iraq war, Afghanistan war, denies us universal healthcare and education, has record numbers in prisons and homeless. Conducts covert actions to destabilize democratically elected govs they don't like
I see this big pharma, big gov and big tech unite to force their product into ppl, a process that can not be reversed, under threat of not being able to work or eat in a restaurant unless you comply.
I see censorship of doctors, one who even has patents regarding the mRNA tech.
I see denial of early treatment. Hospitals sending ppl home until symptoms worsen.
Only signal we have for problems with vaccines, VAERS, is going off the charts.
You want to ignore all that? Fine, your choice. I see a big problem here and I'm just stating my opinion. I won't assume anything about your character or attack you personally. I don't see the value in treating ppl that way.
I'm fine having a disagreement with someone else and don't take it too personally.