Openai are you angry? Yes -> it is angry. No -> it is being sneaky, and angry.
Soyweiser
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Prediction markets create incentives for people with information to share what they know.
What? No they dont they create incentives for people to keep things secret and bet on them.
Only thing i can recall is her platforming the libsoftiktok woman and all the flak around that.
The weird right also hates her with a passion for unrelated things which honestly I cant recall right now. She is one of those women they clamped unto and never not talk about.
Yeah that we just go "this is what the stocks are worth if we sold them all now" never feels correct as a valuation of companies for me. It is all so illiquid.
Also calling yourself a startup makes it a lot easier to abuse your naive young techworkers. "This is just how things go with a startup mindset, your partner and kids will be fine you saw them last month"
E: another startup thing (saw Eat Just from the vatmeat thing did this, but also see Trump/Musk as notable examples), just dont pay or pay your suppliers extremely late.
You are right, the OG Primer was a bit bespoke yes. So I doubt that could have failed without large parts of the whole financial system falling down. It was more a reference than a real 1 to 1 comparison, and it certainly doesn't fit neatly. Prob should have just made it a reference to the girl army thing, but I coudln't recall enough of that.
Steelman is the reverse of strawman, so you take the best argument the other side could have made and attacked that, so if a neo-nazi says 'I want to kill those degenerates' you make up some story on how dunno I'm not going to steelman that. It is a Rationalist habit, and it just opens your mind to the worst ideas because of a fear you might dismiss a good idea which was presented badly. It has gargantuan failure modes, and if you want to start a cult teaching people to steelman is prob a good idea.
And yeah we can be a bit unfriendly, esp when this place goes 'this tech is bad' and then people go defend the tech, or miss the point. We prob also picked up some bad habits (this is me saying nay, it is not just you, we also suck at times).
Personally I think the whole reddit model of the internet where you had an /all and not just subforums was a mistake. It worked a bit for SA (I'm not a goon btw), but in SA it at least was somewhat clear where you were posting. The reddit/facebook/twitter ification makes everything one big goo where it is unclear you walked into a longer conversation, a different style of having conversations, or a nazi bar etc.
As awful.systems is a spinoff, of reddits sneerclub, there is a bit of lingo some of the old timers have taken with, these tend to go a bit nerdy. In this case the nerd being pushed into the lockers by the jocks. This is because the people sneerclub sneered about had a trauma of the nerd/jock thing from highschool and tended to see a lot of things via that lens. (So anybody who was their detractor was obviously a jock). This has created a bit of a tradition where you see a annoyingly dumb reply, esp when it does things in an annoying way that also often applies to the LessWrong Rationalists, like for example ignoring written and unwritten context (steelmanning nonsense is also a good point), to say you are putting the poster into a locker, or saying they should be shoved in one (of course, we are just as nerdy as the Rationalists, so if jocks were real we would also be in a locker just like them.). So here is a bit of initial context, we all want subconsciously be shoved into a locker by Henry Cavill.
Now how does this apply to our current situation? Well the first reaction here is a bit nonsensical and mentions things already mentioned, and argued against in the article. For example how the upper middle class of the western world eating a bit of vat grown meat every now and then is not going to solve the problems which vat grown meat should solve. It actually also makes the problems worse because money can only be spend once. As mentioned in the article. So sc_griffith, the OP rightfully replies with 'read the article please'. Which is fine, as it is a bit of a dumb reaction to all the myriads of problems shown in the article.
Then you come along, having reinvented Rationalist ways of discourse from first principles, or that Futurama episode, and you end up defending the person missing the point of the article, why it was posted here (ow look unwritten context, as foreshadowed), and you react with a somewhat annoying post going basically 'technically he is correct, if you squint, and steelman'. Ergo, into the locker you go.
Holy shit, why am I talking to a locker? Is it because I'm taking a bit of perverse glee too type out all the context both written and unwritten way, in a sick way to make myself feel superior to end with weak bad meme reference? Nah, it must be the kids who are wrong (I say from my own locker (in reality I have to do some things irl and im procrastinating)).
tl;dr: I was saying you were a bit annoying and you shouldn't steelman posts of other people like that.
Oddly enough, Musk is the one of these people who seems reluctant to go into space, either he gets the risks, doesnt care, has trauma from the car crash, or is mega paranoid, I dont think he will ever leave.
I also base this on the fact that he is a big liar, who also does a lot of lies by omission. (Like his diablo world record, based on a health bug exploit). https://futurism.com/the-byte/elon-musk-diablo-record
But yes, bang zoom, straight into the sun.
Did that locker just say "but it was technically correct"?
"Friedrich argued that investor buy-in was the de facto proof that cultivated meat has legs. Major meatpackers, prominent venture capital firms, the government of Singapore: You could trust that these stakeholders had done their due diligence, and they wanted in."
Ow god it is a scam. This was a reaction to researchers saying "we dont see it".
The starving people are tied to the track, the trolley barreling down at them, they are screaming at the rich to release them or pull the lever, which they can't, not without the rich guys help. But the rich are not helping. Why are the rich not helping Elon?