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Summary: "Beyoncé is selling “listening only” tickets for her Renaissance tour. The seats are behind the stage, so you can’t see any of the set or dancing, but they only cost $157 compared to the ~$900 fans have been paying for regular US tickets."

haha!

fuuuuuuuck that.

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[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Fuck these ultra wealthy pop stars. They are part of the problem. There are millions of independent artists across hundreds of genres we can support instead.

And I know it's subjective to a large extent but 90% of pop is absolute garbage.

[–] You999@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The problem isn't exactly the pop stars but live nation's monopoly which strangles every aspect of the live music industry. As a musician if you want to preform at almost any large venue you'll have to get in bed with live nation or be black listed. If you run venue you better join live nation's network and use ticket master or else you won't be able to book money making artists. And as a fan you better buy your price gouged tickets through ticket master or else you won't get to see anyone play.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

What do you expect from a woman who claims to empower girls, while making them work in her sweatshops, while she's off doing private concerts for amoral Saudi princes.

[–] Nfntordr@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Times like these I'm so glad I love metal. I can pay 30 bucks to WATCH, listen and go sick to a band full of talent. I'd be livid if I was an artist and saw that my fans were having to pay $900

[–] rab@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm watching 156 quality bands at brutal assault for like 100 euro

[–] Nfntordr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Niiice! I'm seeing Be'lakor when they get back from their Euro tour for $30 in September. Can't ask for better than that!

[–] rab@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No way. Be'lakor is my most anticipated band on the brutal assault lineup. I have been listening since stone's reach!!

[–] Nfntordr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Well, I hope you enjoy :0) They sound amazing live, i've seen them once before last year and I can't wait to see them again in a few weeks time.

[–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Blind people might be interested?

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 year ago

Before everyone freaks out (and yes, this shit is stupid-expensive), Beyoncé isn't a complete piece of shit. But I guess you can afford this when you charge that much:

Beyoncé’s tour paid $100,000 to extend DC Metro hours after weather delayed show

Beyoncé’s “Renaissance” tour paid $100,000 to keep all 98 Metro stations in the Washington, DC, area open for an extra hour after Sunday’s show at the outdoor FedExField venue was delayed because of heavy rain and lightning, a news release from the transit authority said.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait 900$ for a concert? That's dumb enough for me.

[–] ren@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they've gotten crazy if you are a big-big name like Swift, Beyonce, Drake, etc. Don't know how people can drop that kind of scratch!

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know if there is anything in live entertaining I would pay 900, or actually I'm pretty sure there is nothing.

[–] thelongshot93@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Festivals where you're there for multiple days and seeing dozens of artists are the only thing I'd drop money like that on. One artist? Not a chance.

[–] djquadratic@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

the new VIP tickets will be listening from under the stage and having the opportunity to catch glimpses of the performance through the floorboards

[–] cokane_88@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't understand why people are willing to pay that much for tickets. The "market" is ridiculously inflated. After my last experience at a live nation event first and only one in a long time, not for me not dealing with that cluster fuck and rip off trap ever again.

Live nation ticket checking procedure is dumb AF. You have to be online to show the ticket but because the Wi-Fi and 5g arent working because 10k plus people are trying to use them it causes a problem. Then they don't give you an arm band so every time I had to piss or whatever I had to show my ticket to get back to my seat. I cussed them out the 3rd time, almost got booted. I hate getting controlled like idiot sheep. Live nation doesn't accept cash and want 17 bucks a drink. Force you to buy liquid death water too because fuck you pay me.

I'm sticking to smaller venues, ones that dont have share holders to impress.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

I agree with your sentiments, but you don't need to cuss out the people just working at the venue. By all means boycott any and all events that go through live nation / ticketmaster, but there's no need to pour your anger on the venue workers.

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Under the stage for $75, you hear boomy bass and foot tapping from one of the biggest stars of all time!

[–] ren@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] TheBestUsername@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

My nosebleed Taylor Swift concert tickets were cheaper than this, and I didn't miss a single scene of the show.

Beyoncé really thinks she's better than Taylor?

[–] ScrivenerX@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I used to go to a lot of concerts, but after COVID they got too expensive. $100 is insane for a ticket. $900 is almost rent. Who is her target audience?

[–] fugepe@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

you got a lot of imbeciles in this world. So them

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 0 points 1 year ago

She is popular in the realm that a significant percentage of society are fans.

So the rich from that group.

[–] Multech@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

This is just fucking ridiculous. Paying $157 to go to a concert for a regular seat for me is already a bit much, let alone this bullshit. The saddest thing is that I bet these seats will still sell out.

[–] cordillera@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nothing wrong with liking pop but she has vastly more money than I will ever earn. I rather support indie or up and coming performers that won't take my financial support for granted.

Also helps to enjoy a wide variety of music so if one scene is getting overpriced or doesn't tour your area, you can still enjoy and support other acts.

[–] legion@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

So by Beyonce's own math, only about 17% of her performance's value is actually the music.

Sounds about right.

[–] fugepe@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Empowering, yaaaaaaaaaas queen!

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Beyonce is worth over $1/2 BILLION. Fuck off.

[–] kd637_mi@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While this is shitty, I don't really care about Beyoncé and didn't subscribe to this community to see news about her. I hope it doesn't end up as a dunking on mainstream music community instead of a showcasing sweet alternative music community.

[–] ren@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hear you, this is really more about the state of concerts & concert tickets which medium-sized and old-school alternative & indie acts still have to deal with… Pearl Jam has fought the good fight since the 90s, The Cure is still dealing with it 30 years later.

[–] useless_modern_god@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I reckon it’s good call posting this article. It’s painfully obvious we aren’t here to discuss Beyoncé and her catalogue or talent. Got some really nice engagement with this one.👍

[–] ren@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

we did indeed! Got the community some visibility I think too. We growing!

[–] ramble81@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That's like a Live CD but with extra steps.

[–] Che_Donkey@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

hehehhehhhehheheeeereeaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhHA!

insanity

[–] SaintWacko@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man, imagine grabbing the cheapest tickets to the concert and not realizing...

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Shoulda known your place lol

[–] Biscuit303@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

I paid $60 for 5th row tickets to Ween at red rocks and $5 for a hit of acid - probably better than a front row Beyoncé ticket. $900 for anything but a combined front row/meet and greet/over the pants HJ from an artist sounds just absolutely insane to me.

[–] yesdogishere@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

everyone is going to realise how shit she sounds.

[–] ren@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I’m reminded of the meme:

“Capitalism breeds innovation!

The innovation:”

So does this mean what used to be “the cheap seats” become mid-tier seats? This makes me think of this sub-economy airline tickets. Everything just gets worse and worse.

[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Beyonce really is just Ni'jah from Swarm, Donald Glover once again with a completely accurate satire of real life.

[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If its stupid and it works it aint stupid.

I mean there will be people paying for it and it doesnt affect me in any way. People can spent the money they make the way they like as far as I am conferned.

Whether that is stupid so be it their own fault if they buy those tickets.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If it's greedy and it "works", it's still greedy and worthy of contempt.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I don't care if rich people price everyone out of every commodity. This particular instance of gentrification doesn't affect me so none of the others will, either!"

[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

a proper way to stop resellers would be that tickets are valid only with id, plus reselling only on the official site to the same price if your plans change so you can rebrand them would do a lot more than complaining about no view seats

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