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[–] SuddenDownpour@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

To the ~33% people who have downvoted this: you're literally arguing against a person's right not to have their body receive unnecessary surgical manipulations until they're old enough to actually consent to it. Babies are not their parents' property. Let people decide when they're adults.

[–] WhollyGuacamole@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unfortunately a lot of Americans believe children are the property of their parents. We need a children's bill of rights.

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[–] thantik@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (26 children)

Broke the cycle with my son. It was insane the amount of people who didn't even belong to a religion that this is a symptom of, who were pushy about me having it performed. If my son wants to be cut, he can make that decision for himself later in life. All of the atheists I know, were the ones that were anti-mutilation.

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[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

isn't this true for a heap of non Jewish American males too?

[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mostly just in USA (any maybe Canada?)

[–] Feersummendjinn@feddit.uk 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

America isn't near the top, here is a map from Wikipedia:

Global Map of Male Circumcision Prevalence at Country Level

[–] teichflamme@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think the difference is that it is performed in the US even without religious background.

Usually this happens because the parents would be Jewish or Muslim.

[–] LazyBane@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

IIRC in America it was done as a supposed way to curb masterbation, and as time went on it instead stuck because nobody ever questioned it much.

People today still try to defend it with alleged hygiene and health benifits, mainly because people rarely take "your penis has somthing wrong with it" very well regardless of how kindly you phrase it.

[–] gowan@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It was connected to hygiene as infected foreskins were a common problem in WWI then it became a thing of matching the parents.

Turning to anyone and telling them they are defective/deformed is the height of classlessness. You shouldn't be surprised when acting like an asshole isn't well received.

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[–] jordo@artemis.camp 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That 20-80% variance makes it look as though Australia and America have the same rates of circumcision

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[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s interesting how many apparently religious people feel the need to hang out in an atheist community.

[–] fkn@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The amount of concern trolling that happens in here is astonishing... And frankly the amount of anti trans, anti gay replies and up votes in the replies here is concerning.

People like to concern troll about how their specific religion gets targeted while simultaneously bashing on the gays. It's infuriating. We need much more stringent/frequent bans. Reddits r/atheism was like this too before they actively started banning people for it.

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[–] KrisND@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Interesting comments and opinions. I know that coming from a non-religious family, I was circumcised after birth because the doctors stated that it was better for hygiene. However, I got an infection (from the surgery) and spent 3 extra weeks in the hospital, nearly dying.

Thankfully, my following siblings were not put in that situation (and I had no long-term issues). And although I do believe that it is better for hygiene, it also takes the majority of nerves out.

Today, I believe that it should be an optional surgery or when medically required. In today's world, it is largely unnecessary.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's not better for hygiene if you just wash your dick when you shower.

[–] player2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes! Humans literally evolved to have a foreskin so it has to provide an advantage beyond any added risks, even under pre-historic hygiene conditions.

If it truly posed a health risk then that would immediately impact an individual's ability to reproduce and it would have shrunk and disappeared over thousands of years of breeding.

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[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

that map has to be wrong. it's rare in Australia, it was deemed unnecessary and cruel in the 70s. only people over 50 have it here unless they suffer from certain religious affliction.

[–] alex_02@fedia.io 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

casually sips their water while they read the comments unfold over a weewee meme I love the internet.

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