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[–] AnotherOne@feddit.de 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No, you love the creators you watch. Youtube, as a google company, created a businessmodel out of stealing data/private information and selling it to the highest bidder. I use newpipe, i never see ads but if i have a creator i want to support i send them money as direct as possible without middlemen (direct donations during livestreams for example). i pay the creator for their work. If google wouldn't violate my human dignity by shoving a camera up my ass 24/7 i might consider giving them money to run their servers but as long as they try to make me a product they won't see money nor data from me

[–] electriccars@startrek.website 70 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's a fair point, maybe I should look into using newpipe and use what was my monthly payment as a direct donation to my favorite creators instead. Thanks for the informative reply!

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

If they have a patreon, that would be the best way short of putting the money directly in their hands.

[–] milkytoast@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah I would say block ads, and then whatever u would normally spend on premium, donate to your favorite creators

the creatora only get 55% (which isn't bad all things considered) of the ad/premium revenue. by donating directly u spend the same but they get more

[–] electriccars@startrek.website 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But to be fair, if YouTube themselves don't make anything then the service that hosts my content creators isn't sustainable. So just getting premium feels like the most moral option all things considered, at least for me.

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[–] Catsrules@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No, you love the creators you watch.

And Youtube makes that possible. Show me another service that is as good as Youtube is? Unlimited uploads for everyone, extremely fast constant delivery network. Require no logins or accounts to access the site. 4K video etc.. etc.. All for the low price of free with ads, or pay for no adds. They every are even one of the best at paying content creators. There is a reason almost every content creator ends up having some kind of account on Youtube.

Youtube, as a google company, created a businessmodel out of stealing data/private information and selling it to the highest bidder.

I don't believe Google is in the business of selling data. There business is ad delivery. They keep the data to themselves as it is their secret sauce to deliver ads.

[–] beefcat@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Google absolutely is in the business of selling user data, through their ad network. AdSense customers use that data to target ads. It’s their whole business model. Just because they aren’t being given a database with all that data doesn’t mean they aren’t paying for access to it.

Facebook operates the same way.

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[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If money could stop things from enshitifying, there would be very few shitty things on the planet.

If everybody on the planet subscribed to YouTube premium they would still become enshittified.

Even with 8 billion monthly subscriptions at $10 a month or more, Google would raise the prices and provide less service.

They would do whatever they have to do whatever they can do to extract the most amount of money they possibly can out of the product.

This is not just because Google is a shit company, this is because greed knows no bounds. The only way for a company to stop being enshitified is for the company from the top down to be radically opposed to enshittification.

Only a good King can stop enshittification.

There are no good Kings in Google.

[–] electriccars@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago

I know. Late stage capitalism is much more of a negative than a positive.

But I did say slow enshitification. Slow =/= Stop.

Enshitification:

[–] Maajmaaj@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] electriccars@startrek.website 44 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You could say I'm a master...

[–] Maajmaaj@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] electriccars@startrek.website 47 points 1 year ago

The number within your circle has an absolute value of |2|, and |2| is a positive number! 😎

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[–] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

Sorry, but I'll pay for it when they stop spying on everything I do. And worse, is that they make it intentionally bad when you turn off suggestions.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Fuck google and the horse it rode in on. Never paying them a single red cent. They already make bank selling my data.

Fuck em with a cactus.

[–] Eavolution@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm still annoyed at the removal of google play music. I want to just buy tracks or albums, instead of a subscription, and just own a flac/mp3/music file I can do anything with.

I rip cds now, and feel 0 guilt for that even though its illegal here because quite frankly the artists are getting more money this way.

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[–] halvar@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

sounds like propaganda

[–] xfts@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Let me just share a few FOSS apps that are arguably better than their official google counterparts.

For YouTube: Libretube, NewPipe

For YouTube Music: InnerTune, ViMusic

And, not open source, but if you want to support the creators (and artists) you like, buy merch. YouTube doesn't get a cut of the merch sales to my knowledge.

[–] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] electriccars@startrek.website 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ReVanced resurrected Sync for Reddit for me, maybe I should check out what ReVanced does for YouTube.

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[–] portside@monyet.cc 6 points 1 year ago

ReVanced gang checking in

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[–] MrGerrit@feddit.nl 12 points 1 year ago

Let them sell my data that they're tracking, it should cover the costs.

[–] DekkerNSFW@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Enshittification is not a thing that will be slowed if only we just pay Google more. It's a well-honed business strategy. Nobody in their right mind would stop their plans just because people start paying them more, voluntarily.

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Google will never see a single cent from me! (besides when i buy my next pixel because they are actually kinda worth the money)

[–] Teritz@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

Just use ReVanced

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

I'd rather click two buttons than give them my card information and send them money, but ok.

[–] CinnamonTheCat@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

I'm no bootlicker

[–] beefcat@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

Creators also earn way more from Premium views than ad views.

I have no problem with services being ad-supported, and I also have no problem with them charging for a premium ad-free option.

[–] hellishharlot@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

ublock origin on my PC works amazing. I forget yt has ads most of the time. If web drm becomes a thing I'll hopefully have a pinhole in front of my traffic by then

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[–] skycat@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

I will never pay or use proprietary user subjugating software/ services

[–] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Got a new phone and number.

Wanted to log into YouTube.

Had to wait a month to get the verification email because google is a shitshow when it comes to security.

Ended up never using google products since then ever again.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A little VPN to Argentina does wonders for the bank balance. I don’t mind paying but I refuse to pay extortionate amounts.

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[–] awwsom@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

yes it does make profit. it's revenue is over 31 billion dollars if it was not making profit after having this much revenue. Google will just delete it.

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[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Youtube without ads + bonus functionalities

Youtube Music

Both are FOSS btw

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[–] jabib@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago
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