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    Well that didn't go as expected... (programming.dev)
    submitted 1 year ago by gogosempai@programming.dev to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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    For those who are wondering, yes, Wine is malware compatible so be careful about the EXEs you run!

    https://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#Is_Wine_malware-compatible.3F

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    [–] rovingnothing29@kbin.social 175 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This is why I always test suspicious files on my work issued PC.

    [–] Smallletter@lemmy.world 94 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    You're the reason my Mondays are always chaos

    [–] TheFriendlyArtificer@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

    Then you're not going to be happy with me deploying work production code via my dedicated porn box...

    [–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

    I see you work for my company...

    [–] MurdoMaclachlan@lemmy.world 132 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Image Transcription: Meme

    [Gru, the long-nosed protagonist of the "Despicable Me" franchise, presents to the camera, pointing into the air and smiling. Behind him is a flipchart with text reading:]

    And the best part about using Linux: No viruses!

    [Still presenting, Gru has his hand in a C shape and his head down as he peers at the gap between his fingers. The text now reads:]

    Look at this, a website downloaded a malicious .exe on my machine.

    [Gru now has his hands pointing down, fingers splayed, still presenting. The text now reads:]

    *Double Click*

    See? Nothing happe...

    [Gru looks back to the flipchart in a double-take, his eyes round and wide and his mouth downturned. The text still reads:]

    *Wine is launching*

    [The Wine logo: a slightly tipped wine glass with red wine sloshing inside it.]

    I am a human who transcribes posts to improve accessibility on Lemmy. Transcriptions help people who use screen readers or other assistive technology to use the site. For more information, see here.

    [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

    Oh gods I'm tired. I read:

    Image Transcription: Meme

    And saw the line break and thought "Wow. That was a good transcription." I think I need to go back to bed.

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    [–] cdegallo@lemmy.world 105 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I feel like, for some weird reason, nobody on lemmy knows how meme templates are supposed to be used.

    [–] null_recurrent@midwest.social 41 points 1 year ago

    It's like watching my parents try to meme and I'm here for it.

    [–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

    People bitching about meme usage. I am home.

    [–] static_motion@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago

    Same thing happened on Reddit, honestly.

    [–] nitefox@lemmy.world 77 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    “Well no problem, they can’t run without root privileges!” -/home left the game

    [–] gogosempai@programming.dev 20 points 1 year ago

    Time to go back to our "roots" then.

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    [–] SomethingBurger@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Even better: Wine defaults to giving access to your whole drive to new prefixes.

    [–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Though "only" your personal files are at risk cause of permissions.

    [–] PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    You really don't think Linux has viruses? I'm confused by this post. Is it an excuse to shit on wine and windows?

    [–] rhythmicotter@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    There are very few Linux viruses. With its low market share, it's not a juicy target, or at least not desktop users.

    [–] steakmeout@aussie.zone 11 points 1 year ago

    Yeah that kinda thinking is really not useful. Linux is a very very juicy target these days due to your thinking. Desktop Linux installations are riddled with poor security settings and many server features enabled by default. IOT devices and self spun servers are regularly deployed unsecured as well.

    https://linuxsecurity.com/features/must-read-articles/linux-malware-the-truth-about-this-growing-threat-updated

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    [–] ayyndrew@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago

    ~~Vulnerable to malware~~ Malware compatible

    [–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    And anti cheat don't work..... Malware that gets into internals of windows probably fail like anti cheat

    [–] Slotos@feddit.nl 22 points 1 year ago

    It can still corrupt files. I knew that wine was the shut when I had to delete my wineprefix because Eve Online complained about corrupted file. Even better, a virus scanner would run and detect the malware.

    [–] azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    unless its just simple ransomware that will nuke your /home (or Z:\home) content if you don't sandbox it

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    [–] Chickerino@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago

    technically that is only true if the malware in question does something in the kernel or relies on an unimplemented wine api call, since a lot of malware is an infostealer or ransomware, its quite likely that it'll work just fine under wine

    [–] dukk@programming.dev 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I use Nix, so I’ll just reinstall my system if anything really bad ever happens. Sometimes I reinstall just because. My important files are on a delegate drive I have to manually mount, so I’m not too worried.

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    [–] bahuka88@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

    ⚰️

    [–] Asudox@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    And now some normie is going to think that Wine is actually a virus.

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    [–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

    The year of Linux desktop! Complete with the malwares!

    [–] Hovenko@iusearchlinux.fyi 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    I install all wine related stuff inside podman container usin a nice thing called toolbox. That way your system is not polluted with all those libraries and bimboze stuff runs nicely inside a box. Not bulletproof but better than nothing

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    [–] Resol@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

    Best self checkmate I've seen tonight

    [–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

    Damn, I wanted them free fortnite bucks.

    [–] kaito@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

    Wine also mounts your home directory by default so... yeah...

    [–] nogrub@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    no matter what os you use you can get viruses on linux and macos the chanche is slimmer because they have a smaller user base. the only way to not get viruses is to use your brain. for those who don't know there are linux viruses and you can get them if you don't pay attention

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    [–] Sputnik34@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    I just got a real bad malware on my windows PC and I'm legit considering using Linux as a response. What's the best into to someone who isn't a programmer but understands computers relatively well enough?

    [–] gingernate@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Try a few different distros. People often recommend Mint for a beginner. I use Fedora personally, I also like Debian, it's stable but a bit boring and can be outdated. You can also creat a bootable live USB and try before you install!

    [–] squaresinger@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Tbh, I consider "a bit boring" a pretty good feature for an OS. "Exciting" usually means dozens of hours to fix simple things.

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    [–] CoffeeVector@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    To clarify, because I think this would be pretty confusing for someone who isn't already into Linux.

    So a "distro" is short for a distribution of linux. Strictly speaking, Linux is just a kernel which is a technical component of an operating system. A few different organizations have taken the Linux kernel and added the necessary additions to turn it into a typical PC operating system e.g. Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Fedora, CentOS, Arch Linux, Manjaro Linux. Some are harder to get set up and some are plug and play. Ubuntu, Linux Mint, and Manjaro are considered to be "easy" to set up. Arch Linux is typically considered the hardest.

    But how do you actually install it? (1) choose the distro. (2) download the .iso file from their website (a few gigabytes). (3) burn it into a spare usb flash drive to make a "live boot usb". (4) go into your BIOS and select to boot from your usb instead of your typical hard drive. Now you should be in your chosen distro. Conside this a sandbox that is contained to only your flashdrive. If you shutdown and remove the flash drive, nothing would change. (5 optional) play around and try it out. Do you like it? (6) Double click the installer on the desktop to install it on your hard drive for-real.

    A note on step (3), you can find guides for this online. My favorite software that does this on windows is rufus.

    A note on step (4), everyone's BIOS looks a little different. You can search "how to change boot options on XYZ" for your laptop/motherboard.

    A note on step (6), if you really hate windows, you're free to nuke it, but your installer will give you the option to "install alongside windows" which will let you choose which OS to boot into on startup. This is known as "dual booting". It's the option with less commitment, but sometimes minor issues come up that requires troubleshooting (windows likes to fuck shit up when it updates).

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    [–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I remember. 22 years ago. https://m.slashdot.org/story/20461

    And 14 years ago. https://m.slashdot.org/story/126359

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    [–] yousirname@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    I haven't run a Linux machine in years. Has wine improved or was I just not savvy enough to get things to run on it?

    [–] oce@jlai.lu 9 points 1 year ago

    If you run games with Steam on Linux, it will probably use Proton, which uses Wine. It allows thousands of games to be click & play now on Linux now. See: https://www.protondb.com/

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    [–] akash_rawal@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Sadly "Wine is not a container" doesn't make for a good acronym.

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