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Microsoft shuts down Cortana, Apple should do the same with Siri::Cortana is Microsoft’s virtual assistant, which was introduced in 2014 back when Windows Phone was still a thing. Similar to...

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[–] Ducks@ducks.dev 57 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This will make the 3 people who actually used Cortana mildly disgruntled.

[–] Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

I've always hated it as it took a decent amount of my ram without ever having used it

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

I spent hours trying to get rid of it, only to have it come back a few weeks later after an update.

One of many reasons I abandoned Windows entirely.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ClassyHatter@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

#BotLivesMatter

[–] quadropiss@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cortana isn't dead. The brand of it is. Bing ai is almost what Cortana was supposed to be

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Siri on the other hand..

[–] btonz@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

This article sounds like it was written by someone who barely understands what a voice assistant is, let alone how a corporation works. Very dumb. Is 9to5 using GPT instead of paying journalists?

[–] Hominine@lemonine.hominine.xyz 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

..similar to what? SIMILAR TO WHAT!?

[–] ilega_dh@feddit.nl 34 points 1 year ago

Nah, I use Siri daily for simple tasks. Turning on lights, setting timers, adding things to my groceries list. She’s simple, but perfectly fine for simple tasks.

Please leave her the fuck alone :’)

[–] SimplePhysics@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nice cut, Memmy.

[–] rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Please not Siri, it ain’t smart but it does everything I want - the basics and reasonably easily.

I remember Cortana fondly when it was a great blend of Siri and Google Now but naturally it and Windows Phone got left to rot, and made her useless on desktop Windows since they forfeited my pocket.

I tolerated Google Assistant for a bit but ditched Android when Google pushed updates to remove the “okay Google with the screen off” feature from my Moto Z Play and gaslit the internet - stating it was never supported in closed support threads, the chipset didn’t support it and promoted it as a (then new) Pixel 1 feature. I figured Apple wouldn’t remove “Hey Siri” and so far several years in it’s still holding true.

[–] jeremy@lemmy.dexlit.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay google works fine when the screen is off for me. On S22+ with latest Android

[–] rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

I know it's still a feature for many, not saying it's still a Pixel exclusive today, this was several years ago

[–] Ejh3k@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I miss the squeeze to activate Google assistant. I used that all the time, but since I upgraded my pixel and it's no longer an option, I just don't use it ever.

[–] smackjack@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I don't miss it at all. Every time I put my phone in my cupholder, it would activate, but when I actually needed it to work, it just wouldn't.

[–] djsaskdja@endlesstalk.org 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It’s too embedded into their services at the moment. Like you can’t even use CarPlay unless you enable Siri. I like the idea but in contrast they could also just try to make it good lol.

[–] waitmarks@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

not only that, they also sell smart speakers whose only interaction is with siri. Shutting down siri would turn those $300 speakers into paper weights. this article is a really bad take.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whoa, you need Siri enabled for CarPlay?! I refuse to have any voice things turned on any devices and I’ve been considering upgrading my horribly slow double DIMM radio to a CarPlay radio. I guess I’ll skip that.

[–] djsaskdja@endlesstalk.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep. I don’t own a car, but I rented one and wanted to give CarPlay a spin for the first time. It was like please enable Siri. I ended up doing it, but became very annoyed with Siri not long after I brought the car back. Would definitely be an issue for me if I owned the thing instead of renting.

If you do any car shopping, just ask the dealer if you can try it. Would be a good way to verify if what I’m saying is still true.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s fair! Honestly I just want a Bluetooth connection that doesn’t have a 1-2 second delay. Maybe FLAC support from flash drives.

My current radio plays MPs from flash drives, but won’t let you CHANGE THE SONG if you’re not stopped. So I use my phone via BT, which has this awful delay when doing anything at all.

With my last car, I used my beloved Bluetooth to 3.5mm adapter, which connects instantly, has no delay, and sounds magnificent. I would happily do with this car… BUT THE RADIO DOESN’T HAVE A GOT DANG 3.5MM JACK.

[–] djsaskdja@endlesstalk.org 1 points 1 year ago

I think the car I rented could do Bluetooth audio without using CarPlay. I don’t remember how good/bad the delay was though.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am genuinely curious.. how could it possibly matter if there is a small delay on audio playback?

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Watching video while parked? Impossible.

Volume down? Enjoy loud.

Forward? More song. No new song.

Bad. No delay good.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only thing here that reads as English is the video use case. If I ever watched a video in my car I'd identify. But I don't and may never do that.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s ANNOYING when I change a track foward or turn down the volume for any reason and it DOESN’T DO THE THING for a while.

Is that really so difficult for you to grok?

Do you need it translated better?

It’s annoying because I have a device that DOESN’T DO THAT but I cannot plug it in as my car doesn’t have a standard 3.5mm jack or a way to plug an adopter in.

I don’t watch videos in my car, except when I’m waiting for someone to go to my car and I’m already in my car.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was honestly just curious. I've used BT audio for years and that never really registered on my radar as a concern so I didn't know.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Fair! My BT adapter does everything instantly and going from that to sloooow BT is annoying.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I am also reasonably sure — not 100%, but reasonably — that Siri has something to do with the transcription process for visual voicemail.

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 1 year ago

I don't understand why the author sees AI as an alternative to Siri rather than a potential upgrade.

[–] Orionza@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I shut off asuch of Cortana on my desktop as I could. Not a wanted feature.

[–] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

No. Siri is useful, especially when you can’t type. I use Siri a lot on my bike. Apple just needs to fix Siri.

[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Should've killed Cortana in Halo 4

[–] praxi@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

God no. I use it when I can’t reach the phone. It isn’t perfect, but it still is valuable

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Apple can’t kill Siri. Too many of its solutions rely on voice as the dominant input method. Accessibility for Mac / iOS, HomePod, CarPlay, Apple Watch, Vision Pro, AirPods, etc.

Also, Siri has about a 3rd of the voice assistant market, Cortana use was way below that.

[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Not the same thing. Even though Siri is not great, I still use it for basic tasks.

[–] rockrit@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I’m kinda glad it’s over. Cortana killed the very useful voice commands on Xbox (alongside the size and price of the Kinect).

Instead of “Xbox On” you had to actually instruct Cortana to turn it on. The same for the quick screenshot or changing the channel on TV or whatever. It was so good, my whole family was using it and this was in 2014ish when voice control was still fairly new. Cortana ruined all of that for a virtual assistant that barely worked and made Siri look like AI.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use my Google assistant all the time...

...mostly to set timers.

Great for it though!

[–] ren@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

nah

Siri, while not great, handles timers, reminders, and dumbshit like that just fine without typing. I have yet to find another good use for these assistants.

[–] Gowens@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep. I’ve used my Google assistant for timers, alarms, weather, and music. Anything more complex is a headache. Even music is half the time.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Asking the thing to handle music in another language was terrible. Asking it to play a French song to an assistent set in English gives stupid results for example. "Que sera, sera" becomes "Oh Sarah".