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Someone posted this over on Reddit right when it happened and I apparently saved it. I'm cleaning out my bookmarks and came across it. I hought you'd like to see why it's good news that we found Lemmy.

Edit: I took a screenshot in case it gets deleted.

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[–] betheydocrime@lemmy.world 192 points 1 year ago (7 children)

One of the main reasons people come to Reddit is to be informed by discussions they’re interested in, creating an environment of active discovery ripe for brands to show up and add value. Contextual Keyword Targeting places advertisers at the center of this journey, and at the heart of active conversations taking place, giving them the option to select specific keywords to associate with their brand, or even align keywords with their creative ad copy for added relevance. With so much direct traffic to Reddit conversation threads originating from high intent organic searches or research sessions, Contextual Keyword Targeting unlocks value for advertisers during and after discussions unfold, since we know Reddit threads live on as valuable, searchable resources for our users.

I threw up in my mouth reading this. I don't think any community would enjoy being described as "an environment of active discovery ripe for brands to show up and add value".

If you're like me and haven't deleted old reddit comments because of the valuable information they can give other people, now may be the time to reconsider. Being able to advertise on discussions that have already happened is one of the sales pitches Reddit makes to prospective advertisers.

[–] Chetzemoka@kbin.social 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Jesus, pure intentional enshitification. It's so disgusting

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 43 points 1 year ago

Contextual Keyword Targeting unlocks value for advertisers during and after discussions unfold, since we know Reddit threads live on as valuable, searchable resources for our users.

Spez doesn't get to profit from me anymore.

[–] amos@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They mentioned Ally Financial as one of the success cases so I did a quick search for recent posts about Ally and sure enough the very first result from outside their own sub has this user contributing to the conversation:

https://www.reddit.com/user/robbiedavissie

Somebody posts a question about Ally and this less than 3 day old account comes along pitching all of Ally Bank's features. Then a week later they're making 3 posts in a row advertising some other brand.

Super sketch.

[–] Ktheone@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The amount of buzzwords just to say "advertisers are a greater priority for us than our users" holy shit

[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The use of all the buzzwords actually works to show the advertisers in question that they understand what they're doing and, in this case somewhat literally, that they "speak their language."

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Reddit's recent monetisation schemes can all be summed up as "demanding a cut from people profiting off the site" and this is just more of that. They've done absolutely nothing to prevent astro-turfing and manipulation, now they're just going to offer it as a service.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I wish there was an easy way to archive my old reddit comments. Anything older than 1000 comments seems impossible to access even though I made them.

[–] liara@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You could do a data request, that should be everything they have on you

[–] darmabum@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I did that when the API fees were first announced, and it took a couple of weeks for them to respond, but I got a full text file of my comments and posts.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

Oh thanks, I've just done that. I wrote a LOT of stuff in my time. I always thought it'd be good to look back and see how my positions changed and how I felt about my old thoughts. It was pretty annoying not to have a way to go back and actually read my stuff, even though they're still hosting them and profiting off of them.

I'll be honest most of it is anarchist propaganda so I'm in two minds as to whether or not to remove it. I'll definitely get rid of the fun games stuff I posted and find a place here for it.

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[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Same, we're all prostitutes for Reddit in the end.

TBH, they're already doing it a little here, but at least we're not being sold to the highest bidder by Reddit. Here, they get ignored and/or downvoted.

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 55 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Can you TLDR it cause i don't want to change my DNS rules to allow reddit for this.

[–] bloopernova@programming.dev 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TL;DR enshittification. Lots of targeted ads and corporate newspeak.

Thx.

Fuck reddit.

[–] odium@programming.dev 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

TLDR; remember how you liked putting site:reddit.com at the end of searches for specific product recommendations because it seemed like the last place left on the internet where you can get recommendations which weren't blatant ads? Well fuck you, we gonna use the question context when choosing ads.

Example: Looking for headphone recs and go to a reddit post? You're gonna see a headphone ad.

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[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TLDR: They're selling keywords and organic advertising (I think that's the name) from their official blog.

Full text:

Investing in what makes Reddit unique: Introducing Contextual Keyword Targeting and Product Ads Announcements Staff • June 9, 2023

Reddit is the place the world turns to for advice, recommendations and honest conversations. Every day, Reddit users contribute to more than 400,000 conversations on the platform, and with each passing second, an average of two questions are asked on Reddit that receive an average of 19 responses – from real people (helpful, anonymous strangers no less!). And, with over 13 billion posts and comments, Reddit has become one of the internet’s largest open archives of human experiences. These rich conversations are a valuable place for advertisers to find highly engaged, potential customers, and for brands to become part of the most contextually relevant conversations happening online. As we continue to invest in advertising solutions that bring the best of Reddit to businesses, and vice versa, we are excited to today announce two new Reddit Ad Products that harness the value of Reddit’s communities for advertisers: Contextual Keyword Targeting and Product Ads. Introducing Contextual Keyword Targeting

One of the main reasons people come to Reddit is to be informed by discussions they’re interested in, creating an environment of active discovery ripe for brands to show up and add value. Contextual Keyword Targeting places advertisers at the center of this journey, and at the heart of active conversations taking place, giving them the option to select specific keywords to associate with their brand, or even align keywords with their creative ad copy for added relevance. With so much direct traffic to Reddit conversation threads originating from high intent organic searches or research sessions, Contextual Keyword Targeting unlocks value for advertisers during and after discussions unfold, since we know Reddit threads live on as valuable, searchable resources for our users. Introducing Product Ads

Research shows that redditors are higher-value customers; they make 2x more category purchases and spend 2.5x more per purchase, are +56% more likely to talk positively about a brand online and are +46% more likely to trust a brand that advertises on Reddit. To address this unique mindset, Product Ads are aimed at seamlessly connecting brands with consumers when they are already in research mode and primed to make a purchase decision. Integrated into the shopping journeys already happening on Reddit, Product Ads are a natural next step in the consideration process as users gear up to make a purchase. Product Ads feature information like product description and pricing in local currency, as well as a call-to-action button that sends users directly to the brand’s product page. And, as part of our wider commitment to making it even easier for advertisers to set up and manage their campaigns on Reddit, Product Ads enable advertisers to quickly and easily build ads directly from their existing catalogs with no need for additional creative resources. If an advertiser is already activating shopping campaigns on other platforms, they can easily import those same catalogs to the Reddit Ads Manager.

“We’ve known for over a decade that people come to Reddit to talk about the products they love – take r/BuyItForLife for example, a community of over 1.5 million redditors who have been sharing recommendations and advice about their lifelong, must-have purchases since 2011. These updates will uplevel the search-and-discover experience for both brands and our users by tapping into our differentiated value as a hub for actionable conversation” said Reddit Chief Revenue Officer, Harold Klaje. “Our approach to this next phase of our Ads Product offering is to help brands help people make informed decisions, find answers to their questions, and discover products they care about – while in the process enabling advertisers to build connections with new and valuable new audiences.” Client success so far

Reddit partners have already begun tapping into the potential of Contextual Keyword Targeting and Product Ads as part of our early testing process.

“We are very excited to see Reddit’s ads product suite expand. Contextual keyword targeting is a fit with the inherent nature of Reddit users, as well as discoveries of Reddit content via search queries,” said GroupM Vice President and Global Head of Social, Amanda Grant. “Connecting that high intent user behavior with Product Ads gives our clients more full funnel opportunities on the platform, and more commerce considerations in the arsenal that is especially meaningful as teams prepare for 2H activation."

As a Financial Services disruptor brand, Ally Financial sought out Contextual Keyword Targeting to run contextual ads along relevant conversations on Reddit. By aligning their ads with suitable keywords, Ally was able to drive cost efficient down funnel sign ups from Reddit users.

Liquid I.V. came to Reddit looking to boost consideration and sales for their line of hydration products. As part of our Product Ads beta testing, the brand saw substantial performance relative to internal metrics for Return on Ad Spend.

Contextual Keyword Targeting and Product Ads are available in Beta to all qualified Reddit advertisers globally from today. To run your own ads on Reddit, and learn more about our other advertising options, contact us.

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sound like greedy spez 🐖

Hope he chokes to death on the money knowing not a single person will feel sorry for him.

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 3 points 1 year ago

Cmon, spez has done a lot of good. Nobody else has done more for the growth of the fediverse than he has.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] wahming@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Context needed please. Reddit is blocking themselves?

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Nope. I've seen myself visiting Reddit through Google search a bit too much, so I blocked it in DNS settings just like the other guy.

[–] SamboT@lemm.ee 41 points 1 year ago

So fucking brazenly perverse.

The window of success for trusting reddit for product recommendations was just destroyed. What fucking idiots. They can't seek out clients instead of posting to the world that they try to manipulate their users?

They are trying to point to subs dedicated to making smart purchases as an opportunity to advertise for whoever pays? Good fucking luck. They are going to crash their whole model into the ground and they don't care. This is an IPO play to get rich and RUIN the site.

[–] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 year ago

The priority of advertisers experience, over user experience, should say it all

[–] n3cr0@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looks like they don't just put off their users, the also screw over their customers. Good job!

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

That's step 2 on the path to enshittification.

[–] Kikkertje@aussie.zone 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So the one remaining way to search the internet that would give me the results I needed is disappearing? Time to head back to the library I guess

[–] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I bought a technical book for the first time in 10 years because searching sucked soooo bad. Articles start with monotonous life stores, videos that waste time (but don't forget to click like and subscribe!), or just straight up product ads and SEO spam.

Analogue to the rescue.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

I threw up a little reading this. Gross.

[–] BuckRowdy@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think they'll delete this. This is their future.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Bleh, you're probably right.

[–] Tygr@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I’m so glad I purged all my crap off that network. If you wrote about a brand, your content will be used to show that brand as an advertisement. Now your content will appear like an endorsement and Reddit will definitely laugh to the bank off your words.

[–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The only good news is I'm racking my brain and I don't think I've ever mentioned a product of any sort by name that I wasn't bashing it. Sorta the economic version of survivor bias? If it's good, I have no reason to bring it up.

I hope those slip through so someone can see an ad that says:

Zoloft
"It never did shit for me"
— N.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

It's going to be something like this:

u/RandomRedditUser29473:

Comcast is a piece of shit, I was put on hold for 3 hours to reach support.

(Promoted) Comcast plans for you starting from $2999.99/mo! Like you have any other choice HAHAHAHAHA

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[–] Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

I mean that was possible before but on a whole new level. It's actually in Reddits interest to get rid of more sceptical mods who stick tightly to rules, because they'd delete an obvious ads thread.

[–] UnaSolaEstrellaLibre@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not regretting deleting my 10+ year old account one bit.

[–] Amilo159@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Same here, 10 years, over 600k comment karma, all power deleted.

[–] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't want to hear from products. I want to talk about nothing with people.

[–] BobbyBandwidth@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothingness is pretty crazy if you think about it

[–] RealM@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It IS kinda crazy. If you try to create "nothingness" (create an enclosed space and suck out all of the air to have as little as possible), the nothingness actually tries to become full of something again, because of pressure difference.

[–] BobbyBandwidth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If you think of nothing, then it becomes something

[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago
[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I wonder if the “400,000 comments per day” and “2 questions per second” figures are still true (if they ever were).

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[–] Nurgle@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Well A) this is not going to get deleted cause B) it’s not that big relative to most advertising.

Previously you could target ads by subreddit or interest (which I’m assuming was subscribers of a subreddit when they were on an unrelated subreddit)

This allows for ads to be served based in keywords on keyword targeting. So a car company could serve ads on “transmission repair costs” or whatever.

The second changes looks like product ads, which is an ecom ad format that you see on Google (top row of products), insta, Pinterest, etc… basically it’s exactly what it sounds like. Products in an ad, you can swipe through them.

If you don’t like targeted ads you’re not going to like these, if you didn’t care before you probably won’t care now.

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[–] athos77@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure this ties in with the stuff they were promoting at the Cannes Lions conference back when everything kicked off.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

I love it! Having my decision to leave reddit justified again, and so quickly, gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.

[–] Copernican@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't see the alarm. Key word targeting is used in other digital print forms. Doing ad targeting based on the content of the page is not a bad way to balance the need to increase value of the ad space you sell, while also avoiding the need to target a user specifically based on tracking. It's no secret reddit makes money selling ads.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They're purchasing the power to get into the conversation and don't you feel used? Why are you here if you didn't mind what Reddit did?

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