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[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

An embarrassing number of things get me way too worked up, but right at the top of the list is saying healthcare shouldn't be accessible to all. To say that by phrasing your response with an absolute obscene level of racism is a whole new level. But I suppose we shouldn't expect anything less from the footsoldiers of fascism.

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I live in the UK and because of my type 1 diabetes all my prescriptions are free.

It's madness to charge for something someone needs to live. Captive audience to the extreme.

[–] CyberGhost@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You are lucky. USA makes you pay for everything.

I cant afford my medication anymore and now i just deal with the withdrawl and horrible pain. If i had just chosen to be a NEET instead of working at a coal mine this wouldnt have happened to me. Im tired.

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

We charge about 8 quid per perscription. But you can buy monthly or yearly packages that make it cheaper if you get loads.

So my ones would cost around Β£50 a month if I had to pay.

Certain deseases, pregnancy, children, being on benefits and a few other things make them all free.

[–] Afghaniscran@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago

Asthmatic here that gets 3 inhalers every month. It could be Β£31.25 a month or Β£375 a year, or, because of the prepaid certificate, I pay for any and all prescriptions for Β£11 a month.

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Are there barriers with claiming, like lengthy forms? Or was it straightforward to apply?

[–] reazonozaer@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It shouldn't be surprising that a couple days after this they made this post.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For anyone who isn't familiar, this is a play on the fourteen words. (ETA: white supremacist shit)

I checked and was mildly surprised to learn that it was real. I was expecting a propertarian to be subtler than that.

I should have seen it coming.

[–] vd1n@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I live in NH. It's fucked here. Split between rich arrogant snobs that act like they are down for equality but only make moves via Facebook profile overlays and Nazis, and conservatives that are just wrecklessly psychopaths.

It's hell for anyone that doesn't fit those two.

We have little Nazi fucks dropping banners on the highway and surrounding gay cafes and theathers calling people paedophiles.

NH is a shit hole of ignorance and nobody does anything at all about it. Both sides hate if anyone trys to point out the obvious they try to hide from.

Some trashy pro trump career criminal steals from my family and cops just laugh at me when I ask for help.

It's really fucking up my view of America as a whole...

And it's not just Nazis and dumb politics... I know too many career criminals that get ahead while good kids suffer for living with basic human decency.

[–] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it really that bad? I'm thinking of moving there from Ohio because gestures vaguely at middle america.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Compared to much of the US it is better, but it is the Florida of New England

[–] Rom@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

idk why they always think "basic human needs should be free" somehow means "the people providing for these needs must do it for free." Like even under our current system right now there are doctors who accept Medicare and Medicaid. Do they think these doctors don't get paid and just see these patients for free? Dumbest shit ever.

[–] RedWizard@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 year ago

They don't think that's what it means. They know it means publicly funded. They just don't want to pay for it because they know the rich will be fitting the bill. Don't give them that much credit, they're not as dumb as they want you to think.

[–] honeynut@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

What's the opposite of a mask off moment? Like, putting on groucho marx glasses over your klan hood.

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Has anyone noticed the weird surge in pro-slavery sentiment? I’ve seen people, including black propel, defending slavery recently and it’s mind blowing! They claim that enslaved people learned work ethic and important life skills, that some slave owners treated the enslaved like family. These same arguments are being made about the concentration camps during the holocaust too!

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ron DeSuckMyDick in Florida signed off on legislation that changed the way slavery is talked about in Florida schools. That's where a lot of this seems to have started.

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn’t DeFascist also make it a thing that teachers can/should show PragerU videos in class?

[–] Jumper775@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Free as in free beer vs free as in freedom. Two different words entirely.

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

You can use libre to distinguish the latter meaning

[–] MrSlicer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do they not understand that by free we mean paid for by taxes?

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That might be the point they are (terribly) trying to make: that taxing people (i) takes away their choice/freedom and (ii) forces taxpayers to fund the 'lifestyle' of others. It's the populist version of Hayek-Nozick.

The government probably paid that farmer to grow that crop in the first place.

[–] doggle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

If they're ideologically consistent then they'd argue that taxation is theft. And since they seem to think that slavery is wrong purely because the individual is being deprived of pay, then they'd probably say that taxation is morally equivalent to slavery as well.

They're wrong, but they'd probably say that.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I dont agree with communism but id say im pretty close to that(socialist prob) but this is such a bruh moment.

[–] CyberGhost@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago (13 children)

What don’t you with about communism?

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What does that even mean, and also why did you feel the need to qualify it here?

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think everyone can and should hate libertarianism. You dont need to be communist for it.

[–] IntoDaLagoon@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Top tier answer lmao

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[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So are you trying to say you’re a socdem or what?

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably not that into politics

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Was trying to ascertain how much they knew, if they can't even answer if they're a soc dem I'd have to send them to like second thought lol

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Second thought is very good

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago

yes, especially for extremely new leftists

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[–] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm from Denmark so my health care is paid through tax

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

To the wall.

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