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[–] youCanCallMeDragon@lemmy.world 79 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Founder of cynicism and famously lived in a barrel. Certified based.

[–] Aviouslly@lemmy.ml 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So just straight up Oscar the Grouch

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oscar was partially based on a rude waiter, so pretty much the same thing.. most philosophers are waiters in real life..

[–] KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] theodewere@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

i was never man enough to be a waiter

[–] sergio@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago

I thought he was based on homeless people so kids watching Sesame Street would have some exposure to irritable people that live on the streets.

[–] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 18 points 1 year ago

The only man truly capable of Getting Over It.

[–] ryannathans@lemmy.fmhy.net 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everybody acting like if he existed today he wouldn't be villified for his actions

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True, a publicly masturbating homeless person would not be popular

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Putting aside the public masturbation, which is an incredibly easy thing to completely write him off for, his thoughts would still not matter at all today.

He'd be considered a broken mind, not a thinking mind with reasons for his choices and actions.

His criticism of society would be expected, and ignored. But more significantly, he would not have been allowed his place of rest, and would be pestered and moved from place to place.

We make homeless people homeless by telling them they can't stay where they are right now, they can't rest there and they certainly can't build a home there. And the most fun part is that we have people who will tell them that even if they go to the outskirts of our cities, all the way out along an empty road, or even deep into the forest. We have forest police to keep your ass moving, because in our world, you are allowed no land for free. It's all ours. No matter how worthless the patch of dirt you picked is, you can't have it. And what you think about that doesn't matter.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 28 points 1 year ago

One day when a few people were throwing bones at Diogenes as they would to a dog, he got up and urinated on them like a dog.

Certified savage

[–] MaxPower@feddit.de 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Noone mentions Sam O'Nella Academy's introduction to Diogenes?

Well, I'm doing it then: Diogenes, the Publicly-Defecating Philosopher -- 11 million viewers can't be wrong!

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[–] friendlysort@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

You are doing the Lord's work, good sir

[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Remember when base meant vulgar?

Pepperidge farm remembers.

[–] pixelscience@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have no idea what it's supposed to mean now?

[–] kmkz_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Being unapologetically genuine. Not necessarily rude, but honest with your beliefs despite what others might think.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

It's ironic that Digenes's fanboys (like the fanboys of stoicism), use his example as a model to better integrate, cope, and succeed in postmodern late-capital society.

Modeling one's self after Digenes without being homeless is like modeling oneself after Michael Jackson without being able to dance.

Digenes looks down from eternity and invites these posers to get fucking wrecked.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

so based dude practically lived in the baseMENT

[–] CassowaryTom@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Boo. But still upvoted because I'm still laughing over the waiter thing.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i can take your boos, as long as there is laughter.. i am The Grouch..

[–] spike@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think those jokes weren't MEANT to be.

But since I also struggle sometimes with my dad jokes, here's an upvote.

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

and in any case for Diogenes, a basement would have been luxurious

[–] instamat@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I saw this earlier today and I read it as “no place to sit but his face,” because reading are hard and no smart brain

[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[–] shadowspirit@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think about, "behold, man" when anyone mentions Diogenes.

According to Diogenes Laërtius’ third-century Lives and Opinions of the Eminent Philosophers, Plato was applauded for his definition of man as a featherless biped, so Diogenes the Cynic “plucked the feathers from a cock, brought it to Plato’s school, and said, ‘Here is Plato’s man.’ ” When asked about the origin of his epithet, cynic deriving from the Greek word for dog, Diogenes replied that it was given to him because he “fawns upon those who give him anything and barks at those who give him nothing.”

Borrowed from: https://www.laphamsquarterly.org/animals/miscellany/plato-and-diogenes-debate-featherless-bipeds