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National police chief: "a police officer should not be in prison, even if he may have committed serious faults or errors in the course of his work." Left-wing opposition blasted government for failing to rein in “a police hierarchy that places itself above the law”.

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[–] ShroOmeric@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] LollerCorleone@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

This just keeps getting truer

[–] Meltbox@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s one heck of an interesting statement from the police chief. Odd how prevalent this is across the world…

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah I was under the impression that that was supposed to be the quiet part that they hurt you if you say they think

[–] HTCPCP508@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The victim's face today:

https://fr.media7.ma/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Affaire-Hedi-a-Marseille-le-jeune-homme-va-perdre.png

Police black-mails the government at every riot or whatever. They threaten not to protect the government if they are not given always more impunity. And it works every time. They started to kill and mutilate a lot more, and now guess what, they want more impunity.

This shit show accelerated under Macron, it's out of control. The recruiting standards were lowered at rock bottom, the training time has been shortened and they lowered the bar again. The job attracts mostly sociopaths these days as it's mostly about riot control, i.e. randomly breaking skulls and getting away with it.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A police officer "should not" be in prison? Sure, only in the sense that nobody "should" be. People sometimes wind up in prison after doing things they "should not" do. Why "should" that not apply to police too?

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think their point is if they make a mistake while handling a riot they shouldn't be arrested.

They talk specifically about errors. I don't believe they are saying the police can willingly break the law with no consequence.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I suppose that depends on the mistake. If I "make a mistake" and someone ends up dead by my hand, I could expect to be treated differently from if I "make a mistake" and burn the cookies I'm baking.

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 year ago

You don't beat someone to death by mistake, then you don't leave him alone on the ground with a broken skull by mistake, and you don't do the same thing twice by mistake (in 2018 the exact same thing happen, a 19 years old women was shot on the leg with a blast ball and policemen beat her on the ground. She ended up with a broken skull and brain damage.

No police station accepted to take her report for her months and by the time she finally managed to report it the recording we're deleted, the hours when it happens b were missing from the official report of the day and the policeman who beat her left to do a mission for a private company in Africa.

In this case it was clearly deliberate but the police wants total immunity. They are a spoiled child, until now the government gave them everything they wanted because they are the reason the current government is still there.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sounds like the kind of police force with the perfect conditions to be rife with criminality and corruption: those who put the esprit de corps ahead of Justice like this to protect a "few" bad apples with this kind of statements and demonstrations, are not going to be firm about the application of the law when it comes to the "making of a little money on the side" (such as with bribes), for their colleagues and quite possibly for themselves.

[–] Ascyron@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Burn the whole god-damned country down and start again.

[–] Amandine@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Am I wrong in thinking that French people tend to see the police and military as being there to control people rather than to help them (more so in the last couple of decades)? Which does not seem to be the case in the USA, for instance.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

I see police the same way as the French for the most part, and I'm from the US.

I think it's places like Japan, Taiwan, and the Nordic countries where people feel the police are more of a positive force in their community.