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Since my main lemmy's password is locked behind Bitwarden, I had to make a new account to post. Originally I started using passwords manager because I keep forgetting passwords. But my paranoid ass is so worried that someone saw me typing my Bitwarden master password so I feel the urge to change it. So now I forgot the new master password.

The password is a few word passphrase generated from a keyword. Like an acoustic poem, if you know what I mean. I know all the words except one word, and I know the starting letter of the word, just forgot the exact word. 🥲 Guess I'm gonna flip through the dictionary to find a word that feels right.

Um so... has anyone experienced memory issues? I'm a young adult (18-25 age range), so I feel so strange to be forgetting stuff so early. Like do young people normally forget things?

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[–] soiling@beehaw.org 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

it doesn't sound like anything abnormal to just completely forget a new password, let alone one part of it. I would not see anything to worry about in this instance. but if you're worried about your memory more generally, how is your sleep? do you get enough, is it restful, do you snore, is your schedule consistent, do you eat before bed? there can also be lots of other common factors like unresolved emotional trauma or depression or neurodivergent traits. additionally, memory is a skill that can be trained if you want to have a good memory.

again, this incident is not something to worry about. if you feel like there's a pattern, there are many things you can look into but start with your day-to-day state. investigate how your body and mind feel. I can't even begin to get close to saying you may have a particular condition, just want to give some lines of thought you can investigate if you want.

[–] TheLastOfHisName@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

I'm 56 years old, have ADHD, and have noticed my memory slipping. I've started writing down stuff in notebooks, and not just relying on apps. I always recommend the old school little black book for writing down your main password/passphrase. Keep it in your nightstand, or somewhere that's easily retrievable.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't stress too much about it, we all forget things. From a very old story on Reddit I would recommend double checking your carbon monoxide detectors just to be safe. Guy was starting to lose huge chunks of time and it turned out his apartment had a leak in it, but beyond that it's normal to forget passwords.

[–] Linuturk@lemmy.onitato.com 6 points 1 year ago

I use a yubikey with a static password set in slot 2. There's a shorter mental password I add to the static password. Those combined mean my master password to my password manager is something I know and something I have.

[–] Sombyr@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

I have some pretty severe memory issues, but weirdly it doesn't apply to passwords. I use different passwords everywhere, but I don't bother with password managers. I just type random letters, numbers, symbols, and randomly capitalize some letters, then I never forget any passwords I frequently use. They're always really long, too. I do forget ones for sites I used like once and then like a year later decided to log in again.

However, when it comes to literally any other area of my life, I'm so shit at remembering things it's basically a mental disorder. I've had moments where I've been talking to somebody, and couldn't remember anything in the conversation past 2 sentances ago. Hell, typing this, I keep having to reread it to remember what I already said.

I'm also fairly young, at least compared to people who'd usually be developing memory issues, but in my case it seems to be caused by the fact that I'm on 7 different meds right now, 4 of which can cause memory issues. Unfortunately unavoidable though. My doctors have tried switching me off and other meds didn't work. The symptoms they prevent, let's just say turned out to be a hell of a lot worse than a few memory issues.

On the bright side, my wife can keep explaining the same Warhammer lore to me over and over again and every time it's just as new and interesting as the first time. And I can play games and read books and such for the first time multiple times. That's something most people only wish they could do. Granted, if I do hear or see something over and over it eventually begins to stick in my head, so I can't do it forever.

[–] Deez@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure if it applies to you, but weed is bad for your memory.

[–] chimeras@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I'm in the same age range and no, I don't have memory problems. I think it's not normal to have memory problems at this age. As for the passord... Maybe you should've written it down somewhere.

[–] pushka@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

for Gmail and Bitwarden I use on basic password from my past, then every few years, I add something to the end of it so it's like Password1password2P3###123 - so it's really long, but I only ever have to 'learn' the last little bit added

every other p.word in my life is random characters (but I also keep a hint of both gmail and bitwarden's passwords - like - a description of each password (the one from dial-up) (that one generated from that one website) (123)

[–] silentdon@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Memory loss seems to be a side effect of depression. I know once I made efforts at coming out of it, my memory improved.

[–] wildeaboutoskar@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah when my depression flares up my memory is awful. I have a reasonable adjustment at work for instructions to be given in writing when I'm feeling low because it will literally be like talking to a goldfish.

Embarrassing when I have a great long term memory

Oh god yes. I’ve always had short term memory issues, particularly exacerbated by anxiety and stress. My brain fills with static when there’s too much going on - i would never rely on my brain alone to remember something like a password. As far as i know this is fairly normal, especially if your brain is also trying to process some kind of stress or distraction at the same time. I write things down in physical notebooks, generally, as a failsafe, and automate pretty much everything with phone reminders. I’m around 30, but I’ve had these memory issues since childhood. If you’re super worried about security, you could maybe come up with some kind of personal story or internal symbolism that means something to you to remember it by? That way it wouldn’t be just a phrase, but something more relevant to you that might be easier to remember but also wouldn’t make sense to those who don’t also live in your head.

[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Get a notebook just for passwords. Gotta update it every time you change pass'

[–] Archief@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you have a memory problem or not kinda depends on how easy it would have been to forget it 😅

I've forgotten a very important passwords once because I had changed it, typed it maybe three times, then didn't have to log in for months afterwards. Never did figure out what I had set...

How long ago did you reset it? How often did you type in this new password before you forgot? When did you remember it last?

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Bitwarden has other options alongside the master password. I just started using bitwarden last week, so I'm not too familiar with the specifics. But, you can set up login with biometrics and also mfa

[–] willeypete23@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know keepass has an xml exploit to get it to dump passwords. Maybe butearden has a similar vulnerability?

[–] Umbrias@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Can you elaborate, this seems unlikely.