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[–] sci@feddit.nl 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I really doubt platforms will modify their worldwide encryption just to accommodate the UK.

[–] jannis@feddit.de 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think most encrypted services will just not comply and either shutdown their service voluntary in the UK or be forced to shutdown in the UK.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I advise they do nothing at all, ignore the law and see if the UK government actually does anything about it, because I highly suspect that they won't.

That's just the way you have to treat the Tories, pretend they don't exist.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Whether or not the corporations agree to this, we need an open-source campaign of disobedience. Keep offering the tools and make them easy to use. The challenge would be getting the software into mass use when most of the public will continue with their backdoored corporate software.

If the corporations would refuse to obey, that would be helpful, but I'm not confident they will, especially when the USA heads in the same direction.

[–] VolunTerry@monero.town 5 points 1 year ago

I agree, we need more peaceful noncompliance. Simply getting a small but significant percentage of the population to opt out of or ignore unjust systems and unjust laws would be a great starting point to standing in the way of bad policy and infringements on liberty.

Your point is a strong one, that having the tools available is a great first step, and now greater adoption and use by the general public is required.

Keep encouraging friends family and acquaintances to take the first steps on a larger journey away from those compromised corporate products and hopefully the needle will continue to move more significantly.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The moment that starts, they find a way of backing down.

This stuff is always to appeal to the clueless in their base.

Good talk about the law on encryption by a MP who was a software developer:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-O9ux25lWFI

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Other governments will follow suit, in particular the governments of other Five Eyes countries. The USA has its own anti-encryption act threatening to pass:

Tell Congress: don't outlaw encrypted applications

If both the UK and the USA outlaw encryption, other governments will certainly follow and everyone is in trouble.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

The UK is not the only government on board with this. Other governments will follow.

[–] CAPSLOCKFTW@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

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[–] CAPSLOCKFTW@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] appel@whiskers.bim.boats 3 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Can even use fairytale mode to make it less obvious

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[–] marcusphelan@mastodon.ie 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@0 @privacy companies will just pull out of the UK rather than permit this. The UK outside the EU is too small a market to capitulate to and it will send a strong signal to other authoritarian nations. I wonder what voters will do when one day they wake up and there’s no WhatsApp or iMessage.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago

The Tories don't have to worry they're basically going to be voted out anyway, quite possibly by the largest landside in political history. They know it, so they are now just making life more difficult for everyone for no reason.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We all need more politicians with a tech background. We need populations that better understand tech and vote better.

20y ago I used to hope tech ignorance would age out the population, but that's not been happening. Most people don't care to learn more. So politicians need to be less clueless and lead.

[–] jossbo@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

I don't think it's lack of tech savvyness that lead to this. The UK government are trying to set up a fascist state. Increased surveillance, outlawing protest, scapegoating immigrants... we're even setting up concentration camps in Rwanda to send asylum seekers and migrants to.

It's really getting bad here.