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Well, as promised, we are talking foldable this week. The excitement is palpable, and it looks like the rest of our mod team have already started the conversation here. Go check it out.

I honestly don't know very much about foldable phones, so I'll let the rest of our (very smart and knowledgeable) mod team handle this one this week. :)

Last thing for future reference at the end of the week, we also have a great thread discussing foldables here too, go check it out if you want more great discussions.

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[–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Just remembered one cool thing about the Nintendo DS. Thanks to its dual screens and the stylus there were lots of "games" that made it serve as an electronic Japanese dictionary and Kanji learning tool and many Japanese learners used it for that exact purpose (I bought mine just for Kirby Canvas Curse though πŸ™ƒ):

There were also lots of games exploiting that setting and they offered unique gameplays that you couldn't find on other hardware.

What would be really cool is if we had a similar software offering on Android that exploits the foldable nature of those phones in a similar way to the Nintendo DS, that would definitely win me over.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I feel like it's a cool bit of tech, but not something I ever asked for in a phone or will ever have a practical use for.

[–] oldlamps@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

That price tag though...

[–] WereCat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I would break it in less than a day in my work environment... Metal dust + anti-cut gloves... RIP the screen at least.

Written on Flip 4.

The compromises hit quite hard. Battery life sucks, screen brightness in sunshine is horrible, and photo quality is not that great (as expected). I still like the toy aspect of it, can lay it anywhere I want, software is also quite good (but definitely not perfect). Fit in pocket (man) is also not perfect (as now key are under it and not next to it). Overall, I still like it, but if I got the money back, I would go back to a normal phone.

[–] candyman337@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The passport foldable is fucking awesome imo, Regular phone screen on the outside, 7ish inch tablet on the inside, super awesome as an e-reader, for productivity, etc. And if the inside screen breaks, you will have a usable outside one.

That being said, I Def thing the tech has a ways to go, the soft screens we have today are flawed. I'd really rather see two screens where they are edgeless when the hinge is flat. We have curved screens, just curve two screens and don't use the part under the curve. Samsung was doing that for years to get edge to edge displays.

[–] 3migo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I've been using a Z Fold 4 for about a year, since launch. This is my first foldable, and it'd honestly be difficult for me to go back to a standard slab phone.

I love how multitasking is actually an enjoyable, functional experience on a foldable. I love having a large display for consuming content. The larger internal display really ups the threshold for "Okay, I need a computer for this", since I can load desktop sites and it be usable.

Granted, it isn't perfect. I do still have concerns about durability, despite the fact thaty Fold has taken a few nasty falls and come out unscathed, it is of course still possible to break. For the first time, I have insurance on a phone due to durability.

The outer display is functional, but it's quite narrow. This leads to some apps not loading properly on the outer display, and a bit of a cramped keyboard. You do get used to it, but I'd prefer a larger external display like the wider display of the Pixel Fold.

The biggest short coming for foldables is apps. While most apps function just fine, some really don't. Instagram is a great example of one that performs poorly on both the external and internal displays. Some apps have tablet interfaces that launch on the inner display, but most don't. Most apps are just a blown up version of the standard phone interface. There are other weird app quirks like how my bank app will only let me use fingerprint to sign in when it's launched on the external display, not the internal. The app situation I think will get better with time as foldables become more widespread, but it is a frustration for now.

The final shortcoming is the size and weight of these phones. With a case on, the Fold 4 is a pretty substantial phone on your pocket. It's heavy, thick, and the first few weeks with it you'll really notice the size and weight. Foldables are trending thinner and lighter, but more progress needs to be made here.

Anyways, all this to say - I ultimately love my foldable phone and have been very satisfied. It's expensive, but if you have the means and the interest in one, I doubt you'd be disappointed. Just keep the shortcomings in mind.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

They protect one of their screens, thats nice. And for people that really really nned a very wide screen i can see tyem using it. As for me they are way expensive.

[–] grasshopper_mouse@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I bought a Z Fold 2 in 2020 and still use it today. Battery life is great, screens are still great (both outer and inner). I always have a cheap case for it that covers the front screen. I have dropped it twice outside on the concrete ground and the cheap case broke, but NOT the phone, so I just bought another case each time--to me, that's what the cheap case is for. I really like it and will probably get another version at some point, but here are my main takeaways:

  • Outer screen is very slim (think almost TV remote-sized). I have gotten used to it but God forbid you hand it to someone else to type on, they always say it's too small

  • It's too long for my pockets, but I'm a woman that wears women's clothes, and our pockets are too damn small for anything, so I have to carry it in my purse

  • The screen protectors it comes with do start to fray at the edges over time, but I have never had it bubble up at the folding point/crease on the inner screen

  • If you are not known for being delicate with your phone, this is not the phone for you. If you work outdoors regularly, have a tendency to drop your phone regularly, etc, don't buy this

  • It's expensive

  • Not all apps are compatible with the big screen so sometimes you're stuck with the small screen view on the big inner screen

  • Having a portable tablet is great! I got rid of my tablet when I bought this phone and have no regrets

  • It's great for driving when using Google Maps or whichever driving app you choose. Having the big screen makes it so much easier to see the directions

  • Any video looks better on the big screen

  • I have used the big screen to view maps I downloaded for hiking

[–] hellishharlot@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  • I love the idea of how thin the galaxy fold's outer screen is but the reality would likely be frustrating.
  • I have the pixel fold and it fits perfectly in my pockets, also a woman wearing women's jeans. It's for the iphone 5 vibe like that.
[–] syrinori@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have the fold 4 and ive come to really appreciate how one handable the small outside display is. You end up using it more than you would expect

The thinness sounds great it's the height that concerns me. And you can't have too small of an outer display and end up with a good inner display

[–] Spellbind8558@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Got myself a Motorola Razr Plus a couple weeks ago after a few years of Pixel 3aXL. Really loving the phone so far. Using the outer screen when taking selfies, changing music while working out/on the go, and sending quick messages is great. Also purchased the two year insurance plan, a first for me but given potential durability concerns a no-brainer.

Was on the fence with Pixel Fold but really liking the smaller form factor of the "flip" style compared to "fold". Also not sure when I'd really use the tablet form.

Great to see more competition in this area. Long-standing companies making foldables like Samsung are going to need to step it up.

[–] Pillarist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I tried the Pixel Fold because I've been using their phones since the Nexus days. I went into it very skeptically... Meaning I made sure I was thoroughly aware of the return policy.

I'm sold. Weight doesn't bother me and the benefits of being able to swap into a screen with that much real estate for viewing, multitasking, playing games, etc far outweigh a little thickness and weight. It fits in my pocket way better than I imagined and the front screen is actually more functionally sized that my 7 Pro's due to how damned tall it is! If you're not hard on your phones (I don't imagine it takes a beating as well as a regular phone) then I suggest you give it a shot. I'm definitely never going back.

[–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

EDIT: I thought it said affordable phones

I personally believe in getting the fastest new/used/refurbished phone you can get with the features you want and keep it as long as you can.

A cheap phone usually ends up being about the same performance as a 4-10 year old flagship and a lot more compromises in cameras, ram, storage, durability, etc.

[–] StoicLime@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Never used one, (can't afford to right now), but I adore the idea of the smaller flip ones. I would definitely take one if they reduced the crease in the future, it's too noticeable right now.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like the idea, but I don't like folding screens and the crease they all have. Just give a folding phone with two screens side by side! Like Microsoft Duo, but with working firmware.

[–] Rouxibeau@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

As a previous owner of an LG V60 ThinQ Dual Screen, I have to say the Fold 3 is better in almost every way. The thinness of the cover screen is one of my few major complaints.

[–] Sigurd@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I think they seem like an interesting concept. After a bunch of work from different companies (mostly samsung to my knowledge) they are actually starting to seem viable well exept for the price. But i bet you that we will be getting foldable tablets that you can turn into large screens at some point.

Dreaming of Pixel Fold. AOSP Android is the only Android I will buy.

However, announced price of 1.9k eur (or 2500eur in e-shops) is something I would not spend on a freaking phone. Price has to go down...

[–] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am completely apathetic about them. I think they're boring.

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[–] Rathernotsay@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Love the Flip and will likely never switch back to a candy bar. It's the new small phone, which barely exist nowadays

[–] Kevnyon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I might buy a flip foldable in the future (so either the Samsung flip or the Motorola RAZR) because I like the idea of using my phone less if I can do at least some things on the outside screen + I like the idea of propping the phone up on itself for videos and photos. I really don't need a book type foldable, but the clamshell just has something to it... In the future.

Honestly im considering buying one Just for the gimkick factor alone. I do like phones that have some gimmick. About the actual usefulness of said gimmick. Well i bought note once for the gimmick alone. Have i ever used the pencil. Only for solving nonograms. Nothing more. Folding phones gimmick on the other hand seems to be way better than the note gimkick, particualry the fold series, flips are questionable alghtough arguably they Look more cool. But the durability of both seems sketchy at Best, especialy since my notΔ™ 4 is still used in my family by my grandma and it still feels snapy to use.

So would i buy one. Not really. The thing with my old note 4 was that i managed to buy it used for a very reasonable price and im not sure i would touch used folding phone with a 3 feet pole, and a full priced 1000$ phones are a scam as far as i am concerned. If you want fun gimmick i Would honestly recomend rog phone 6 instead ( cool, should be reasonably priced, fun aestethic ) or a hopefully soon to be fairphone 5 (i never thought i would call removable battery a gimmick but here we are in 2023) . But If you swim in money by any means buy a flip or fold,why not.

[–] st33fo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I want to try a flip style foldable. Maybe moto or Samsung's (good moto trade in whenπŸ™ƒ). It's been a while since I've seen a phone and go damn, that's eye candy. There'll probably be funky quirks no doubt, but a modern flip phone just looks awesome.

[–] LaughingFox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My gf wanted one because the flips fold down small, but if you ever go on eBay, you'll see the screens are pretty shitty still. Maybe we'll get her one in a few years from now when they've had time to really, truly iron out all the kinks.

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[–] unce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

I've had my zflip3 for a couple years now. Lots of people in the comments seem to be saying that they are fragile but I haven't had any problems with mine. Lots of drops off tables and flipping it open one handed. I really like how it fits in my pocket.

[–] zephiir@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I love mine! Flip 4. But there are some areas that are lacking: camera and gaming capabilities mostly.

Also there's the whole durability issue.

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

As soon as I realised that fold phones existed, I had to own one. My preferred phone is a phablet, but the size makes them non feasible for day to day use. Fold phones solve that problem nicely. I don't think I can go back.

[–] phamanhvu01@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Quite mixed on the idea of foldable phones.

On one hand, they're pretty cool and I especially the Z Flip/razr format for it's nod to the flip phone era and the portability. On the other, their durability is er...questionable and there's no telling if the screen will last as long as that of traditional smartphone's. Oh and plastic screen means scratch galore, too.

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[–] applejacks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Not a fan tbh.

The drawbacks outweigh the benefits for me.

More expensive, more fragile, smaller battery, and I don't really care to have a large screen on me at all times.

[–] Ninja9p5@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Love my Fold 4

[–] root@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Personally I find the current range of phone options simply too huge. Having owned a Sony Z3 Compact followed by the XZ1 Compact, I didn't have many choices. I ended up with the Asus Zenfone 8.

I really like the formfactor of the Oppo find N where in it's folded form it's a really usable size and I can unfold it if I need a bigger screen. I don't mind the Samsung Flips or the Motorola Razrs but I think the outside screen can be bigger. There's a market for the Samsung Folds but it's not for me.

Tl;dr - my idea of a foldable should be a good sized phone which folds down to something very compact and pocketable.

[–] TheInsane42@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I had a Nokia 8110 and 7110 which had a sliding mechanism to get the mic closer to the mouth (and to look cool), that made (some) sence. Now, I don't see the advantage of a folding phone. Why make a phone shorter while making id thicker? I'm missing the 'small' 4" phones that looked like bricks compared to the old gsm models.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I did say I will make fun of the Surface Duo 2 last week, but I don't want to be too mean about it, so... it doesn't have the crease problem, but I still don't know who would even want to buy such a phone.

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