Basically look for a phone on the LinageOS supported list: https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/
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lol nice. My current phone is on this list!
Then try to install LinageOS on it. I am on a phone from 2016 with LinageOS and I can't complain about speed.
Any recommended tutorials on how to install this stuff? Looks like Lineage is the most applicable to my phone.
The Lineage site had decent instructions for my phone
Edit: You only have to do this once, so take time to read and understand the instuctions before you start.
Holy Moly. I guess because I have a Verizon and not a "global" phone, I am not permitted to unlock the phone. Capitalism has thwarted me.
Yeah, that is awful. I got lucky and mine wasn't. The next phone I buy I will know to make sure it isn't unlockable. Actually I will probably just go for a phone with a good OS installed already.
As @poVoq@lemmy.ml did, I recommend it too.
My parents currently run reconditioned Samsung Galaxy S4 phones with LineageOS.
Hey, I use a secondhand Pixel phone along with GrapheneOS. It's not super technical and once it's installed you're pretty much good to go, it has really nice and sane defaults, is updated pretty often, and the actual phones last pretty long imo. For non-techy people if you can get it loaded once it's all you need and it disables 95% of trackers and you can still use most things.
I use a Fairphone 4 and can recommend it.
Damn. It's like $700 but a great idea. These are "de-googled"?
/e/OS currently has an alpha image for the FP4, I imagine LineageOS will soon too. Both are well-known degoogled ROMs.
It's expensive yes, unfortunately prohibitively so for many, but that expense goes into sustainable, conflict-free materials, many years of continuous support, and the engineering required for a semi-modular phone. It will more than likely last you a very long time, longer than any other Android phone, especially since the battery, the first thing to fail in a phone, can be freely replaced.
/e/OS
Last time I looked, /e/ OS was going-to-be-open-source-later software (but was already distributing images). Now it looks like they have published a lot of source code but their FAQ ominously says
Yes – all our source code is available and you can compile it, fork it. Some pre-built applications are used in the system; they are built separately from source code available here, or synced from open-source repositories such as F-Droid. We ship one proprietary application though.
...which, for me, goes from cool to wat to nope in three sentences.
(I do wonder what their one proprietary app is, but am not going to spend more than the minute i just spent trying to find the answer to that question.)
The only app is magic earth, a maps app. It has a great privacy policy, tho, and works very well. You can use whatever you want, of course
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No, but you can probably install a different rom. The Fairphone 3+ is also still good and a bit cheaper.
Not deGoogled, Fairphone are phones build with ethical workers, compared to the cheap phones made in China and resources extracted by forcing kids to work on mines. You can deGoogle them later with any other OS you like most.
I do like this concept. I wiped my phone and will aim to buy one of these in the near future. Their aftermarket parts are very reasonably priced as well. What's weird is that they don't seem to even have a market in the US.
The good thing about this is that it is super easy to repair and replaced parts. I think this started with European founding, so it's basically on Europe as not many people cares about ethical manufacturing, most people want cheap 200 euros china phones. The US is mainly capitalist looking to bother other countries to extract their resources at the lowest cost, so it would make sense that Fairphone isn't there.
lol yeah my country is the literal antithesis to ethical manufacturing.
For something ethical and privacy respectful, I would go to Fairphone + /e/ project. https://esolutions.shop/shop/murena-fairphone-4-eu/
The privacy-focused CalyxOS will be available for the Fairphone 4 as well: https://calyxos.org/news/2022/04/01/fairphone4-oneplus8t-oneplus9-test-builds/
I got a Fairphone with the default setup. It's pretty good. Maybe I should check out /e/ the next time I have some free time.
I feel your pain! I switched to Murena from e.foundation so you can get a deGoogled refurb phone - or just install the eOS operating system on an older phone. Hope this helps or at least provides food for thought. https://e.foundation/
oooh! I can download this on my current phone and it may be and improvement?! Thank you. I will check out Murena as well.
Great! I should have probably said that eOS are selling the refurbed phones as Murena. The list of devices that eOS can go on is incredible, and there's an "easy installer" that helps with the process for many. I've also found the system itself just so smooth and easy to use, with its own cloud service, on top of being deGoogled 🙂 Also privacy-focused and open source software - from a non-profit! 👍
Do you know what e's "one proprietary application" is? (I don't and I'm curious; see my other comment in this thread.)
TIL that's a thing.
And TBH it's really suspicious they don't tell you which one.
It's magic earth, a maps app
No idea! It'd be good to know, I agree!
you can get a second hand pixel (and wait) before you boot download and install the https://calyxos.org/ ROM is amazing.
GrapheneOS on a pixel 4 here. Works great. Most apps from fdroid
Yhea OP who's not really tech litterate gonna unlock a boat loader, install a recovery then the OS ... Unless you have a shop that sell preinstalled GOS on pixels 4 you're not really helping.
Sorry rant over.
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This is honestly looking like the cheapest option for me. Will Verizon be able to activate it with a different OS on it?
Yeah, make sure you get an unlocked pixel that says it's verizon compatible and it's plug and play; even the 5g works
I have reservations about giving Google my money.
Alcatel Go Flip 4, reliable, fast, easy to use, Non-Android or IOS flip phone. It's what I use, and it works great.
I am considering it. I would still like to browse lemmy on my phone though lol
You can still browse lemmy. Sadly, because of the browser you can't login, but I am constantly checking up on Lemmy on my flip phone.
It would help if we knew what your use case is. What do you do with phone? Do you depend on some special apps for messaging or something? It may also be valuable to know where you're located? US? Europe? Asia?
I'm a simple kind of guy. I would just use it for calls, texts, videos, Lemmy, and to check emails. I'm in the US.
My current $150 phone has been perfect until one day over the past three weeks it just started sucking at everything. I suspect foul play and wanted to workaround it. The suggestions of alternate OSs for phones have been great but I didn't realize that I would have to request permission from the phone manufacturer due to it being a Verizon phone.
Just thought of it but have you tried a factory reset? Maybe something just got off kilter and that would give you a blank slate.
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