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Phone Recommendation For Noob (lemmygrad.ml)
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Hello

I'm being pushed into the market by google/android to acquire a new phone due to it slowing down. I'm sick of this marketing tactic and the clutter of preinstalled apps and junk software.

What phone and operating system could I get that could allow me to use for a long period of time and out of reach from subversive tactics from giant corporations?

I'm basically a farmer and so know nothing about coding and not too technologically oriented but would really like to break away from the capitalist/hyperconsumerist phone craze. Thank you.

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[–] Mana@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Damn. It's like $700 but a great idea. These are "de-googled"?

[–] AgreeableLandscape@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

/e/OS currently has an alpha image for the FP4, I imagine LineageOS will soon too. Both are well-known degoogled ROMs.

It's expensive yes, unfortunately prohibitively so for many, but that expense goes into sustainable, conflict-free materials, many years of continuous support, and the engineering required for a semi-modular phone. It will more than likely last you a very long time, longer than any other Android phone, especially since the battery, the first thing to fail in a phone, can be freely replaced.

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

/e/OS

Last time I looked, /e/ OS was going-to-be-open-source-later software (but was already distributing images). Now it looks like they have published a lot of source code but their FAQ ominously says

Yes – all our source code is available and you can compile it, fork it. Some pre-built applications are used in the system; they are built separately from source code available here, or synced from open-source repositories such as F-Droid. We ship one proprietary application though.

...which, for me, goes from cool to wat to nope in three sentences.

(I do wonder what their one proprietary app is, but am not going to spend more than the minute i just spent trying to find the answer to that question.)

[–] Jama@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The only app is magic earth, a maps app. It has a great privacy policy, tho, and works very well. You can use whatever you want, of course

[–] AgreeableLandscape@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Why include it as a default though? If they simply dropped a recommendation, or asked to install it letting you know it's proprietary, sure people might still complain but it won't be seen as nearly as serious a violation of FLOSS principles.

[–] AgreeableLandscape@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I do wonder what their one proprietary app is

I vaguely remember there was this weird PDF reader app I'd never heard of the last time I used /e/. Going to bet it was that. Never used it, installed Book Reader from F-droid in its place.

Now, why that would be a default, I don't know. The only non "it's sponsored" theory I can come up with is that vanilla AOSP, by itself, has no actual ability to read PDFs. There is no default app for it and none of the common browsers can open them either. This is actually a problem in LineageOS because it only ships the AOSP default apps.

Or maybe it's their custom app store that connects to Google Play without signing in? It doesn't seem it's based on Yalp/Aurora Store.

[–] poVoq@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, but you can probably install a different rom. The Fairphone 3+ is also still good and a bit cheaper.

[–] blkpws@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not deGoogled, Fairphone are phones build with ethical workers, compared to the cheap phones made in China and resources extracted by forcing kids to work on mines. You can deGoogle them later with any other OS you like most.

[–] Mana@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I do like this concept. I wiped my phone and will aim to buy one of these in the near future. Their aftermarket parts are very reasonably priced as well. What's weird is that they don't seem to even have a market in the US.

[–] blkpws@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The good thing about this is that it is super easy to repair and replaced parts. I think this started with European founding, so it's basically on Europe as not many people cares about ethical manufacturing, most people want cheap 200 euros china phones. The US is mainly capitalist looking to bother other countries to extract their resources at the lowest cost, so it would make sense that Fairphone isn't there.

[–] Mana@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

lol yeah my country is the literal antithesis to ethical manufacturing.