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    [–] yallspark@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 minutes ago

    I tried Linux Mint, and enjoyed my experience and even setup everything and then when I booted up Factorio Steam didn't use my 3080 somehow. Pop OS worked but I didn't like the experience. I'll have to give Linux Mint a shot again.

    [–] Kinperor@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    I swapped from Windows 10 specifically because I didn't want to be in the Windows 11 and forward environment. (I use Arch btw)

    I really don't regret it, the set up was really painful but once that was done, the KDE had so many good features that I immediately felt at home. I'm floored by how good Proton/Steam is at handling games, I don't think I've had to skip on any game due to my OS (so far).

    [–] tiguwang@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
    [–] Kinperor@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    I'm on good ol' Arch Linux with plasma KDE

    [–] tiguwang@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    You're a better man than I. I just dipped my toes in Arch by going with CachyOS.

    [–] Kinperor@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 minutes ago

    Hey chad, I hadn't heard of CachyOS until you brought it up, good on you for finding an OS that matches your needs and going for it

    [–] quack@lemmy.zip 18 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

    This is gonna be an unpopular opinion here but telling people who have used Windows their entire lives to just switch to Linux as if it's that easy is entirely unhelpful and makes the Linux community look elitist and out of touch.

    [–] FrChazzz@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

    I think I understand your broader point as saying that a switch to Linux being as simple as switching from Coors to Miller is underselling the fact that Linux is a fairly different environment/ecosystem. You’re right on that. But as someone who’s made a switch to Linux (Ubuntu) after a lifetime of other OS use, I have to say that I think it’s worth it, even with the learning curve.

    I have been exclusively a Mac user and Apple cultist for at least twenty years now and only knew Windows (3.0-ME) prior to that. I have a few 2011 Intel Macs that I use for work and home exclusively (two of which were hand-me-downs) and have not been receiving updates for awhile now. I’m not in the financial position to buy a new computer and I randomly read that Ubuntu runs great on these old Macs. So I decided to give it a try. It was a bit of work that was bolstered by the fact that I do have a bit more computer know-how than the average person (but nowhere near most of the people I see on the Fediverse). But I’ve come to love it and am now working my way over to this being a permanent change.

    I’m only sharing this as an example that even deeply entrenched people can learn to use this stuff. And I was a Mac guy! Apple holds your hands and does so much thinking for you! I’d think with Windows, the switch over to something like Mint would be fairly easy, given the GUI (I specifically chose Ubuntu over Mint because Mint’s GUI is described as “Windows-like” and I personally hate all things Microsoft—which is definitely a “me problem” lol—but I’m probably going to load it onto an older ThinkPad of my wife’s that we want to set up for our son).

    [–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

    I mean... they are out of touch. I'm sure its possible to have a pain free switch over but when I had trouble the advice was interspersed with quite a few caveats. In essence Linux is 'easy to setup but...' Still gonna try again though, also guys that laptop you all said was dying because linux made it crash is still working fine on windows with no sign of trouble.

    [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

    It’s easier to use than Windows

    Just give GUI troubleshooting instead of CLI

    [–] Alaknar@lemm.ee 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

    It’s easier to use than Windows

    LOL, good one!

    I especially loved the user friendliness of my distro randomly disconnecting my BT mouse and refusing to reconnect. Had to edit grub to get it back to working order.

    Or how I changed the lock screen image through settings. Now I can see it - in Settings. Only. Because if I lock my device, I still see the old one.

    Or how on Kubuntu, my previous distro, the applications' menu (the one with "File", "View", "Help", etc.) just disappeared from all apps. Spent two days trying to sort it out and ended up switching to Tuxedo OS.

    Such an easy to use OS, especially for those who've never done one bit of troubleshooting themselves!

    [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

    Spoken like someone who hasn’t had to troubleshoot Windows

    [–] debil@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

    Life is a long learning experience. Installing (or asking that nerdy relative to install) a Linux distro is no biggie anymore and when picking a good all-around distro like Mint, for example, pretty much anyone who has some basic experience on computers can do it.

    [–] quack@lemmy.zip 8 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

    I do agree that life is a learning experience, but I might say that you're overestimating what "basic experience on computers" means, and I tend to find that this is fairly typical of people who have more advanced skills because this stuff is basic to us. But we can sometimes lack perspective in that regard.

    Basic experience on computers for most people means "can use Office apps, can send emails, can more or less use the internet". Essentially, they can use the computer for their work or for some light entertainment. It certainly doesn't mean that they know how to or that they even can configure the BIOS to boot from a USB, or for that matter what the BIOS is or that it exists. It doesn't mean that they can use the terminal, or use WINE to run their favourite Windows applications or troubleshoot an operating system that is entirely alien to them. I'd even go as far as to say that most people don't even know what an operating system is - to them, Windows is the computer and they don't know or care about anything different. This is the kind of person I'm talking about. Everything you said might as well be Ancient Greek to that person.

    [–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 10 points 6 hours ago
    [–] debil@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

    I get it. That's why I included the part about "the family tech guy". And I think some sparkle of interest must be had in order to learn about that stuff. Or any stuff, like learning Ancient Greek. One has to be able to use a web search (or write a prompt to an LLM) for "beginner install linux" or some such. If the spark isn't there, maybe buying a new Windows/Mac is the correct way to go.

    [–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

    Id run Linux if it could run the apps I need efficiently

    [–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

    use alternatives if possible

    [–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] beveradb@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

    This is very realistic and fair, I don't subscribe to the ideologist out of touch bs personally even though I first compiled Gentoo 20 years ago.

    I run Mac as my daily driver for convenience and stability but use the terminal for a ton of things and SSH into various Linux servers for my work. I run a VM in Parallels for the handful of apps which only work on windows, and generally avoid them unless they're the only option.

    Basically, what I'm saying is even if you're dependent on some Windows only apps, you might find you have a better quality of life by making those the exception (running them in a VM) but using a more stable OS as the underlying OS.

    [–] Reviever@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

    try mas for activiating ESU

    [–] sfu@lemm.ee 5 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

    I stopped using windows while using Win XP, maybe 16 or 17 years ago. When I try using current windows I become useless, I can barely figure out how to use it.

    [–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

    That's how I feel when I use Linux or MacOS

    [–] civilconvo@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

    Too bad, only 1 out of my approx. 150 customers have their IT dept. using Linux as server during my 6 years in - the rest of it is Windows... all the users have either Windows 10, 11 or they use Apple.

    Halp.

    Edit: not counting the educational users, as they come in hordes

    [–] LucidLyes@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

    Probably what I'm gonna do. I used to live in a country where it was completely normal to illegally download software from ThePirateBay, and that's how everyone got their Windows versions, but I don't even feel like doing that anymore.

    [–] Jucha@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

    My CPU and motherboard are from 2016. I don't mind updating harware to reach windows 11 compability, it's about time anyway.

    I would be angry if updating to 11 from 10 would also cost money directly.

    [–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

    It's like they are not even trying. I have a laptop with 7th gen CPU that works perfectly fine. I don't have any choice than install Linux, lol.

    [–] Jm96@lemm.ee 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

    Windows is becoming increasingly uncomfortable in that regard. I've been thinking about switching to Linux Mint for a while now.

    [–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 4 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

    Make a flash drive bootloader so you can preview what it is like? Why not?

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