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U.S. President Donald Trump has ordered a suspension of all military aid to Ukraine, escalating pressure on President Volodymyr Zelensky mere days after a heated exchange in the Oval Office cast doubt on U.S. support for Kyiv.

A senior Defense Department official told Bloomberg that all U.S. military assistance to Ukraine is on hold until Trump determines that Ukrainian leaders are making a genuine effort toward peace.

The pause affects not only future aid but also weapons already in transit, including shipments on aircraft and ships, as well as equipment awaiting transfer in Poland.

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Edit: changed source from Bloomberg to Kyiv Independent b/c there's no paywall and more detail in the story.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 275 points 1 week ago (19 children)

The U.S. Military and the CIA must know what a threat to the country Trump is, right?

......right?

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 135 points 1 week ago (8 children)

The military that he just dismissed the leadership of and replaced with his own people, and the CIA that's directed by his people?

[–] ShadowRam@fedia.io 64 points 1 week ago (2 children)

his own people,

of which are wildly incompetent

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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 65 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Sometimes I wish the US were what tankies say it is.

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[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago

"Do you solemnly swear that you will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic ;that you will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that you take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that you will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which you are about to enter: So help you God?"

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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 148 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Is there a historical precedent for punishing the defender for daring to successfully resist invasion by a third country?

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 101 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Does it matter at all? Trump is compromised and is actively working for Putin. This is transparent and not being denied. Is there precedent for a puppet to do whatever he's told by his master? Yes, lots.

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[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Palestine. Maybe not successfully, but note that the idea that Palestinians have the same natural right to armed self defense as any other group is completely absent from mainstream political discourse. Most simply cannot even comprehend that the Palestinians should have just as much right to kill to defend themselves as Israelis do. Partly this is due to colonialism. Part of it is classism. The violence of the Israelis is clean and high tech. The violence of the Palestinians is crude and performed with simple weapons. We judge the morality of violence based upon the wealth of the people committing the violence.

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[–] GrymEdm@lemmy.world 137 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The US wouldn’t stop military aid to Israel while the IDF destroyed hospitals and killed children and journalists among many other war crimes. They will freeze aid to Ukraine as it defends itself in a war of conquest. Evidence suggests the USA would rather align with criminals like Putin and Netanyahu than war victims.

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[–] Ronno@feddit.nl 132 points 1 week ago (38 children)

until Trump determines that Ukrainian leaders are making a genuine effort toward peace.

They are literally shooting every Russian they spot on their soil, how is that not making a genuine effort toward peace?

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 1 week ago

He means "capitulate to the enemy"

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 120 points 1 week ago (8 children)

This is what I hope happens next: Ukraine wins anyway. European politicians that still weren’t sure about defending themselves without the US will be emboldened not to rely on America anymore. Europe as a whole becomes stronger and much less willing to tolerate Trump’s obnoxious demands, and see him as the weak puppet that he is.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 67 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At some point, Europe has to start wondering whether it's really such a good thing to have US military bases all over their continent.

[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago

Build up the EU military. Kick the US out. Free airbases.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 98 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So the record currently stands at...

Zelensky - Let's try a deal, we just need security guarantees

Trump - Why are you so Disrespectful?

Zelensky - Let's try a deal, we just need security guarantees

Trump - Putin is a victim we're undoing sanctions

Zelensky - Let's try a deal, we just need security guarantees

Trump - Why won't Zelensky do a deal?

Zelensky - Let's try a deal, we just need security guarantees

Trump - We're stopping Aid.

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The US won’t provide the security guarantees Zelenskyy is asking for. He can try getting them from European countries though, but they do not seem willing to provide them either.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

At least count I'm pretty sure the UK, Sweden, and Australia have all said they'd be willing to put troops into Ukraine for peacekeeping.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 80 points 1 week ago (9 children)

How much more do we have to witness before we accept, as a society, that Donald Trump and the GOP are enemies of the United States of America, and act accordingly?

We are suffering and losing our position as a world leader because of a felon rapist traitor. When are we going to stop this?

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[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 74 points 1 week ago

Not shocking, but fucking abhorrent nonetheless.

[–] Sati1984@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Each time I read "Trump orders", "Trump does X", I always ask myself: "Wait, can he do that? Congress? House? Judiciary? Cheks? Balances? Hellooooooooooo...?"...

... but this is still the first few months of his second term. At this pace, he will be a literal king in a few more months.

A scary prospect to say the least, and I hope it's not too late for America to do something about this. This should not be normalized. This cannot be normalized.

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 64 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Ok. Part 1 is done. Part 2 & 3 (order doesn't matter) is that Trump ends sanctions and then stages a massive false flag attack that they then blame on Ukrainian Extremists upset over the ending of support to enact a full police state.

Part 4: ???

Part 5: profit

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[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 57 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I'd say that fighting off Russian invaders so your country can return to the peaceful state it was in is working towards peace.

Alternatively, has he asked Russia if it would just go home? Seems like another pretty efficient way to achieve peace.

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[–] Lanske@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago (11 children)

I have not a lot of knowledge how American politics work, but isn't this for congress to decide? how is Trump so powerful? (sorry for my daft question)

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's very illegal. He has already been impeached once for withdrawing military aid to Ukraine in his first term.

And you see where that got us.

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[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

It isn't daft. The Republicans since Reagan have pushed a fringe legal theory called the Unitary Executive Theory. Basically, they want the president to fully control the executive branch and military such that theirs is the only voice that matters for much of the government. Not unlike a king, but partially checked by congress and the courts. They have been taking (illegal) actions to try to get sued, and also have been suing others/other branches of government, to try to get the Supreme Court to hear cases that will support this fringe legal theory so that it becomes the law of the land.

I am not a lawyer, but this is possibly something Trump can legally do since he is Commander in Chief of the armed forces. However, this seems more like an apportionment thing, which is Congress' responsibility. Congress has allocated funds to send military aid to Ukraine. So, even if Trump as Commander in Chief could say "no more weapons to ukraine", it seems doubtful to me that he could (legally) stop weapons shipments currently en route.

But, by the time whatever government office sues the office of the president to get a judge to enjoin them to send the agreed upon weapons that were already apportioned, it will already have hurt Ukraine somewhat. Trump often weaponizes inefficiency. And these sort of illegal acts aren't crimes per se - they're just procedural breaches - the legal remedy is just to reverse the action.

So, probably not legal. But Trump gets to weaponize his administration's incompetence (or feigned incompetence) to at least delay aid. More competent people may support these actions, knowing they're illegal, to try and strengthen the president's role even further.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is what got him impeached the first time, right?

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Just as his master told him.

The US media still does not dare to call Trump a Russian agent, despite him showing all symptoms.

There has been no single Russian attempt to destroy the US being as successful as putting their own agent into the White House, right into the Oval Office.

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[–] ShadowRam@fedia.io 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's having a melt-down because the rest of the world is siding with Ukraine (as they should)

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[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (8 children)
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[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Poland, it'd be really cool if you all "lost track" of those shipments.

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[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I would love to see everyone just start ignoring Trump and everything he says and just keeps doing their job.

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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's like appeasement again only worse, because at least the motivation for appeasement was ostensibly to avoid conflict.

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