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[–] bisby@lemmy.world 94 points 5 days ago (10 children)

My comment from last time this was posted.

The most commonly cited monitor in recent years for this is “AW3423DWF”… Which is AlienWare 34" from 2023, DisplayPort, WQHD, Freesync.

Point is, people see a lot of characters and complain when in reality it is exactly what you are referring to. The name is an encoded version of its capabilities. Its just that the encoding isn’t always clear because if every company used the same encoding they would have the same name. and if there are 2 similar monitors you would need to have every feature in the name to differentiate them, so the shorthand encoding becomes necessary. (Eg, AW3423DW and AW3423DWF only really differ on freesync vs gsync, thus the F at the end)

[–] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

i think bundling these features together in a brand name and incrementing it with version number would be more helpful.

having the "alienware porkchop 23" would allow people to become familiar with the branding and understand the featureset that this model comes with.

dwf does not mean anything to most.

[–] bisby@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

That only works if you assume that there is something consistent to version. Some years it's a 34" ultra wide, some years it's a 32" 4k. Will there ever be another 34" ultra wide from alienware? Who knows! Not every monitor gets a revision. and if you have random names for 100 different monitors every year, that doesn't really help make sense of things either.

Alienware Monitor 7.... Well they release 100 different models a year, and every year thats going to increment, and consumers often conflate "bigger number better" so you better make sure you get the numbering right.

And "Porkchop" means absolutely nothing to anyone. DWF at least means something to some people. Going from 0% usefulness to even 10% usefulness is a good move.

[–] shortrounddev@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Do monitors keep a stable amount of features from one generation to the next? I mean the only real reason to upgrade a monitor is for new features, not because it has incrementally improved on the features it already offered, or size maybe. What would be the basis for calling something a "porkchop" vs a "lizard milkshake"

I guess you could have like 3 tiers of features, going from Cheapest to most Expensive (i.e, lower end is 60hz, higher end 120+hz) and then each generation you know which monitor is "better"

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[–] TemplaerDude@lemm.ee 19 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Just give it a cool name like Deathstalker and put that information on the box.

[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Then release Deathstalker Pro, Deathstalker Max and Deathstalker Ultra so that it's easier for the users to know the difference

[–] kattfisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

And of course it's updated with new versions a few times every year or so. So the Deathstalker Pro from the end of 2024 is actually better in many respects than the Deathstalker Ultra from 2022, but you'll have to check the fine print on the box to make sure you're getting the updated QD-OLED version, and not the older AMOLED version. If it has 220 Hz rather than 240 Hz it should be the newer model. Unless you live in South America, in which case they all use WOLED displays, though the specifications are the same so you have no way of knowing without opening it.

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[–] Tungsten5@lemm.ee 4 points 4 days ago

This guy gets it

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[–] InfiniteHench@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (9 children)

I get the logic here but I just don’t think most people think like this. Products are called the “Honda Accord” and the “Apple iPhone” and the “Cordless handheld vacuum” for a reason.

Maybe these code names make sense for the actual engineers working on them. But only the nerdiest of the nerdiest of nerdy consumers will remember a couple of these names. In my line of work I’ve spent a couple decades with a ton of regular folks, non-techy people. You might be surprised how many of them can barely remember what number of iPhone they’re on, and don’t even think about asking them which version of iOS is installed.

TBC: This is not a knock against people who aren’t neck-deep in every industry of every product they own. I couldn’t tell you which engine is in my Hyundai Tuscon or which generation of motor is in my cordless vacuum.

I just think these names are gibberish, probably greenlit by people who don’t think about this stuff. But they aren’t effective names for regular consumers.

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[–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 86 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Sony and everything that isn't a PlayStation

[–] Pechente@feddit.org 43 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I‘m sure the Playstation also has a horrible internal model name. It would be necessary to distinguish different variants.

[–] Shawdow194@fedia.io 49 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 31 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Japan received the SCPH-1000, North America received the SCPH-1001, and Europe received the SCPH-1002.

i do not like this

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I wonder why Sony wants Japan to have bigfoot, America to have Ya-Te-Veo, and Europe to have the shadow objects.

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Ah yes, the very sensible named headphones WH1000-XM# and the earbuds WM1000-XM#, where the # is the generation

[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 59 points 5 days ago (4 children)

The naming pattern makes it easier to have different "models" per major retailer. This hinders consumer price comparisons.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Are monitors mattresses now?

[–] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Always have been. Or at least since the beginning of the world wide web.
Stores had long used the "low price guarantee" slogan to draw customers. And they had trained the average customer to believe that it meant they had the lowest prices. Back in those days price comparisons were hard. Sales ads changed every week or two but other than what was in the ads you had to go from store to store checking the price yourself. Yes, you could call around to different stores, but that was unreliable. Even just getting stores phone numbers was a hassle. Plus, most stores didn't have their inventory computerized, and the ones that did were only close to correct once a year, right after they did their yearly inventory. So they just had to keep track of a couple of their closest and biggest competitors. If you tried hard enough you could save a few dollars, but it was rare and took a lot of effort. Most people would settle on what they thought was the "best store" and just stick with it. Even when a competitor had a sale at a significantly lower price that was simple enough for them to deal with, they would just pull their stock from the shelves and put a sign on it in the back room that said don't sell until a certain date. If you shopped somewhere like Sears or circuit City where their sales people worked on commission, You could sometimes develop a relationship with one of the veteran sales people as "your guy". And they would be able to have this insane knack for "searching the storeroom" for you and "mysteriously" finding the "last box that had been misplaced".
Then Walmart came on the scene and was a huge pain in the ass by actually having cheaper prices on a lot of things. Enough companies complained that eventually a few suppliers would have a special model number for a few high dollar items that they sold to Walmart and then a different model number for everyone else. But this was only on a few things like computer stuff and car stereos.
And then the internet came along and they were forced to slowly start giving just about every store "unique models".

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 days ago

Higher quality models? No, same for TVs, an LG C3 is an LG C3 no matter where you buy it. But base models? Heck yeah.

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[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 36 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah the HT269-GH262J has nothing on the HT269-GH262J-P#@/JKL

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Me, researching online: What's the difference between the HT269-GH262J-P#@/JKL and the HT269-GH262J-P#@/JKL v2?

Every spec sheet in existence for the two:

[–] Maven@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 days ago

The release year stat and the price are different

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

Product names now:

Crying wojak: "EWRT-3846-Pro"

Product names back then:

Chad wojak: "Pulsar 25"

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This method also works for display resolution names like WHKLWXD which is 4k but with six extra pixels on the left side.

[–] RusAD@lemm.ee 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

And the monitor with extra pixels on the right side will obviously have a different name

[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 6 points 5 days ago

It's obviously called WHKRWXD.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

You can't start mixing those up, they're for entirely different market segments!

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

At work I used to have a WUXGA, 1920×1200. I liked it because it just gave extra space. Typically on a desk you're cramped on vertical space, not horizontal.

Prior to that I had a 1080p with two 1600×900 monitors flanking it lol.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Isn't that just 16x10 instead of 16x9? Been awhile since I've messed with those resolutions

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[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 28 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ah, yes. Like my highly successful
LG V ~60~ ^ThinQ^ 5GUW | DualScreen

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 8 points 5 days ago

I think the actual featureset is: "Made for tomorrow. Here for today."
As in: It is made to become usable tomorrow (hopefully with firmware updates by then) and it will last until the end of today (so definitely before all the updates arrive)

[–] houstoneulers@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The missing tooth detail got me

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[–] CidVicious@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I mean there's usually some sort of logic behind the name even if it's not immediately apparent. I think monitors are just prone to lots of SKUs and frequent revisions as panels improve. Edit: HP for example has 146 items listed in their monitors section.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] CidVicious@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Stock keeping unit, a term commonly used in the business world for a combination of product and packaging.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

When non-english-speaking places try to come up with real names, you end up with

Zeuslap, Hgfrtee, and Grebear

So the random characters only slightly inferior

[–] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think you mean ZEUSLAP, HGFRTREE, and GREBEAR.

Oh, and they're all the exact same product.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 days ago

Hilariously accurate.

[–] Scholarofthedeep@lemm.ee 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Same method companies use for generating brand names on Amazon.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It’s better for looking up

Good luck with your i7 2746:653, you’ll be getting search results for random other i7

[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] SilverShark@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)
3. Year
 * Two digit year it was released.

Very cool, but not Y2K compliant.

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[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 days ago
[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 days ago

Jacob named HDDs, too!

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