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President Volodymyr Zelensky left the White House early without signing a mineral deal with the United States following a heated exchange with President Donald Trump on Feb. 28.

Zelensky departed in his motorcade around 1:45 p.m. local time, without holding a joint news conference scheduled for later in the day, after the two leaders got into a heated argument while speaking with journalists in the Oval Office.

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CNN reported that following the exchange, Zelensky and Trump left to separate rooms, with the Ukrainian delegation wanting to continue talks with the Trump administration.

Trump later ordered his officials to tell the Ukrainian officials to leave the White House, despite protest from the Ukrainian delegation.

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[–] dellish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

"Heated exchange".

What are they talking about?? An exchange requires at least two participants. Zelenskyy was trying to keep it cool while Trump and Vance (mainly Trump) just spoke over him. That wasn't a heated exchange, it was a fucking loser having a tantrum while others watched, not quite believing what they were seeing. Having Trump keep talking about Zelenskyy basically being responsible for his citizens dying and bullets flying etc made me sick. The absolute lack of compassion from this orange twerp is incredible. What a cunt.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

France should gift a bunch of nukes to Ukraine. Seriously the EU lacks the manufacturing capacity to properly arm Ukraine without US deliveries and keep their own stockpiles at an adequate levels.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Europe should call ruzi bluff with immediate boots on the ground pushing ruzkies back to the border. Secure the airspace and fucking fry the orcs. Done with minimal european casualties.

Everyone's pissing in the boot while Europe suffers economic and cultural damage that will indirectly kill many more people than a swift defense would have.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, that's how it's prevented. Putin cannot endure a united Europe entering the fray.

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Europe cannot win a war against Russia alone. There's ammo for a full month of war. Good luck.

[–] commander@lemmings.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You have no concept of reality if you believe russia has a chance against NATO.

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not talking about NATO. I'm talking about Europe on its own. You need to work on your reading comprehension.

[–] commander@lemmings.world 1 points 1 week ago

I know what you wrote.

Are you aware of NATO's article 5?

[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Europe, don’t count on America for shit. Do what needs to be done before Ukraine is wiped from the map. They will come for you too.

[–] PortoPeople@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

The U.S. are no longer the leaders of the free world. It's up to Europe now. The U.S. is a fucking shithole.

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

We will hopefully do that, but it's also up to the American citizens to finally put up a proper resistance. One of the most worrying things to me is how indifferent the majority of Americans seem to be to their country turning fascist and betraying its allies. There were some protests sure, but they're ridiculously tiny compared to protests in even much smaller countries like Georgia. It's time to wake the fuck up before power has fully been consolidated and there's no way back. Europe may be able to stand alone against Russia, but against Russia and the US will be tough.

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

About 35% of Georgia's population lives in Tbilisi. The second largest population center is is Batumi at around 6%. There are 360km between them.

The Los Angeles metro area is America's largest population center at around 5% of the population. The DC metro area is the 7th largest at just under 2% of the population. There are 4300km between them.

This is on top of the car centric sprawl of US cities with minimal public transportation. If (even generously) 30% of the population wanted a unified protest, how would they reach each other? Let alone converge to protest at somewhere that matters.

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh, come on. There are still cities with millions of people, where hundreds of thousands could easily get together to protest. Cities double the population size of the entire country of Georgia. There were much larger protests e.g. in DC under the first Trump administration but this time it's too much of a bother?

[–] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

What is even worse than how embarrassing this is, is that it’s impossible for me to tell if this was Putin’s idea or just a fortunate side effect of his stooge’s lead-addled and dying brain.

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I have never been more ashamed to be an American, and have felt like I'm saying this increasingly often. This dude is a man of his people coming to hope and keep aid to be able to fight Putin and these dudes ridiculed and heckled him. They were giving him shit for not wearing a suit. Fucking assholes. Anyone who keeps up knows that's for good reason. He's showing solidarity with the soldiers, his citizens, that are fighting for their god damned homes and families. This deal was never going to go. It was a setup for Trump and Vance to stroke their pathetic micro penis egos. Fucking disgraceful.

[–] pogt@lemmy.wtf 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Zelensky blew it up too soon honestly. The whole asking JD Vance was not disciplined and let his emotions take over. Granted he's got a lot on his plate, but that was a strategic negotiation mistake on his part.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Seeing all of Europe line up behind Z. I think things worked out far better than he hope for. Heck, just for driving a wedge between the US and Europe putin might shake Z's hand. Talk about mission accomplished.

[–] pogt@lemmy.wtf 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

True, he did gain a lot of respect despite messing up the negotiation.

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Trump doesn't even know how to spell "negotiation". Blame it on your sub-par education system. Are you also from the US? I bet you are. We can tell.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Americans are cowards for letting Russia take over their country

[–] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thank the senile Joe Biden for that.