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Update: After this article was published, Bluesky restored Kabas' post and told 404 Media the following: "This was a case of our moderators applying the policy for non-consensual AI content strictly. After re-evaluating the newsworthy context, the moderation team is reinstating those posts."

Bluesky deleted a viral, AI-generated protest video in which Donald Trump is sucking on Elon Musk’s toes because its moderators said it was “non-consensual explicit material.” The video was broadcast on televisions inside the office Housing and Urban Development earlier this week, and quickly went viral on Bluesky and Twitter.

Independent journalist Marisa Kabas obtained a video from a government employee and posted it on Bluesky, where it went viral. Tuesday night, Bluesky moderators deleted the video because they said it was “non-consensual explicit material.”

Other Bluesky users said that versions of the video they uploaded were also deleted, though it is still possible to find the video on the platform.

Technically speaking, the AI video of Trump sucking Musk’s toes, which had the words “LONG LIVE THE REAL KING” shown on top of it, is a nonconsensual AI-generated video, because Trump and Musk did not agree to it. But social media platform content moderation policies have always had carve outs that allow for the criticism of powerful people, especially the world’s richest man and the literal president of the United States.

For example, we once obtained Facebook’s internal rules about sexual content for content moderators, which included broad carveouts to allow for sexual content that criticized public figures and politicians. The First Amendment, which does not apply to social media companies but is relevant considering that Bluesky told Kabas she could not use the platform to “break the law,” has essentially unlimited protection for criticizing public figures in the way this video is doing.

Content moderation has been one of Bluesky’s growing pains over the last few months. The platform has millions of users but only a few dozen employees, meaning that perfect content moderation is impossible, and a lot of it necessarily needs to be automated. This is going to lead to mistakes. But the video Kabas posted was one of the most popular posts on the platform earlier this week and resulted in a national conversation about the protest. Deleting it—whether accidentally or because its moderation rules are so strict as to not allow for this type of reporting on a protest against the President of the United States—is a problem.

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[–] lenz@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I seem to be in the minority here, but I am extremely uncomfortable the idea of non-consensual AI porn of anyone. Even people I despise. It’s so unethical that it just disgusts me. I understand why there are exceptions for those in positions of power, but I’d be more than happy to live in a world where there weren’t.

[–] neclimdul@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I agree. I've thought about it a lot and I still don't have any sympathy for them after the harm they've caused. I see why it's news worthy enough they might reverse it, and why it would be political speech.

But also I think they made the right choice to take it down. If blsky wants to be the better platform, it needs to be better. And not having an exception for this is the right thing.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

porn

Oh, saving the children are you.

Its a picture of trump sucking elons toes. Conflating that with the idea of "porn" is a bit of an overreach in light of how rare toe fetish people are. I imagine you can find a tiny popyulation of people who consider anything erotic. Wearing cotton. Having a roastbeef sandwhich in your hand. Styling hair a certain way. Being an asian female.

Want to ban all of that too?

[–] lenz@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thank you for your thoughtful and considered comment, which definitely did not strawman my rather mild position or blow it out of proportion at all.

Also this wasn’t meant to be a “save the children” argument. Screw that. Can’t I just be uncomfortable with something and express it without people acting like I’m a puritan wanting to ban porn?

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're the one who used the loaded, connotative "porn" word first bud. To recap, I disagreed with your flippant, facile use of the word in this particular instance. We all know what porn is when we see it, and that wasnt it.

Sometimes when you try to jump the shark you fall short. Now you know.

[–] lenz@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Are you arguing that toe sucking is not porn / not meant to be sexual in nature? Because I disagree. Honestly I think you’re being pedantic. I also disagree that “we all know what porn is when we see it” because I think the definition of what counts as porn is more nuanced than you think. And clearly since we disagree, it must be. Of course you can just argue that I don’t know what I’m talking about. But I don’t really care. I think it counts as a non-consensual sexual depiction of two people: porn. You don’t.

So. Whatever, honestly?

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

So. Whatever, honestly?

exactly my point too. You should never have written that first post. See? people can agree.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Anything bad that happens to a conservative is good. The world will only get better if they are made to repeatedly suffer.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 week ago

No, we cannot think like that. It is true that fascism cannot be beat peacefully, but we should never want them to suffer. We should always strive to crush their fascist oligarchy with as little suffering ss possible.

"Whoever would be a slayer of monsters must take heed, or they may become the very monsters they slay... For when one peers into the abyss, the abyss peers back into thee" -FN

[–] sighofannoyance@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Simple solution to all this crap:

MASTODON.

[–] Hack3900@lemy.lol 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I do not understand why people use BlueSky We already had the alternative!!!!! It was here first and many had already created accounts.. Then just went back to Twitter

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

please stop being weird and gross

also please no more 'look bad person do gay' content

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You needlessly choose to take offence. It shows who is sub and who dom. It doesn't matter, except to you it seems, what sex they have

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago

You needlessly choose to take offence

KKK

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah I hate Musk and Trump for lots of things. I don't think using "haha they might be kissing each other! Musk sucks Trumps dick!" is somehow effective criticism of actual fascists in office.

Maybe we can criticize and protest and organize without using shit rooted in queerphobia. Might as well just say "Well Trump probably cross dresses, that shows him!"

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don’t think using “haha they might be kissing each other! Musk sucks Trumps dick!” is somehow effective criticism of actual fascists in office.

It is, for them.

Especially having Trump be "the bottom".

Ever watch Shameless, the US version? Its along the same lines as Terry, Mickey's dad. He only hated Mickey because he was catching, because "It aint gay if you're doing the fucking, just if you get fucked".

So, in this case, yes, making implications of gay sex happening, with Trump catching, is VERY effective at it.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It is, for them.

Fucking crazy you think this is making them sweat at all

all you're doing is giving them completely valid ammo that liberal 'virtue signaling' is completely hollow because look at your hypocritical behavior

not to mention telling all the queers you snarl at every 2-4 years to vote for you exactly how you feel about them

[–] nomugisan@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah. The means must absolutely align with the ends, and this video reeks of privileged white guy mad that he got his cushy desk job in DC ripped out from under him.

Whoever made this shit is no comrade and I'm sick of liberals sharing this everywhere

[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"You're not protesting the right way! You have to stand up to them only in ways that are acceptable to me!"

Got it buddy.

[–] nomugisan@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A protest is throwing a brick through a window. This ain't no protest.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is unanimously considered a protest. Why do you think you decide, not the people?

[–] nomugisan@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 week ago

Cause people are fucking stupid. You're a great example

[–] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I guess I get it. They would not like to set precedent to allow non-consensual AI generated porn on the platform. Seems reasonable. That said, fuck Donny. The video is hilarious. It’s fine if Bluesky doesn’t host it though.

[–] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Only because I find these specific videos to be quite funny, maybe there can be a "satire/criticism of a public figure" exception that could exist

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

That's a pretty big loophole. I mean, imagine the same exact video with Kamala Harris and Nancy Pelosi. It takes a significantly different subtext when the subjects are women. But the subtext doesn't really matter to the morality of the act.

Either involuntary AI generated pornography is wrong or it isn't. I think it's wrong. Do Trump and Musk deserve it? Sure, but it's still wrong. Do I feel bad for them? No, because they deserve it. But it's still not something I would do, or suggest anyone else do, and if the creator is prosecuted, I'm not going to defend them.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not porn tho...not even a little bit.

[–] oozy7@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It is if you are into feet, lmao

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So if I'm into words, are libraries considered porn?

[–] oozy7@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Your analogy doesn’t hold. Words aren’t human body parts.

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 week ago

Ryan Gosling as Ken, semi-shirtless

Is this considered porn? I am certainly, along with at least hundreds of millions of people, into shirtless Ryan Gosling. Specifically his pecs and abs.

Look, I am taking the piss, but not everything that might turn someone on for one reason or another is porn. The AI video of Trump is clearly satire and meant to disgust. What's next, we can't make satirical drawings of him grovelling at Putin's feet because some people have a humiliation fetish?