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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago (4 children)

God dammit, and jut as Google starts enforcing manifest 3. Maybe it's time to stop doing this internet thing altogether. It had a pretty nice run but right now it's just a propaganda and compliance tool...

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

From my understanding, they're pushing this shit on March 14th.

π

Also our next lunar eclipse, at least in the USA.

[–] anon@lemmus.org 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I was on the verge of deleting everything online, including my email address, because I'm with you, but at what point does the privacy movement start intruding on enjoyment of daily activity. I've accepted that my information will be had in exchange for a good product.

It's not exactly how I want to operate, but also, life is too short. Ultimately, I'm on the verge of using Mullvad Browser, Mullvad VPN, and probably getting my email hosted out of some small shared hosting platform somewhere.

I think about this type of stuff daily and it's just exhausting. The Internet has transformed into what we'd hoped it wouldn't over the past five years.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Bring back ham radios.

Ah shit I'm too introverted to use my voice...

Data packets through radio?

Btw: Rattlegram is a Android/iOS app that can convert text to audio, which you can then play over a ham radio. You can use encryption before you paste the ciphertext into Rattlegram. (Encryption over radio is illegal in many jurisdictions tho... 🏴‍☠️)

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago

Data packets through radio?

Software Defined Radio?

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

(Encryption over radio is illegal in many jurisdictions tho... 🏴‍☠️)

Unless the police do it.

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[–] 0x0@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Check out the gemini protocol and the small web, lots of rabbit holes there.

[–] CedarA64@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Geminispace is awesome. The (design of the) Gemini protocol ensures that it is immune to many of the issues that plague the web today.

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 58 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They've released an update, and I'm just generally confused: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/firefox-terms-of-use/

I fully believe that they didn't intend for it to sound so... all encompassing, but this update makes me even more confused. What data is "uploaded" to firefox? I just thought Firefox was the browser, not some website. Do they mean the services Mozilla offers?

[–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This doesn't make any sense to me either. Why do they need a license for what you type into Firefox if that data never gets shared with Mozilla?

I don't know a single application that you need to give a license to so they can handle your data locally.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

We’ve seen a little confusion about the language

Tastes like "I'm sorry you feel that way"

The privacy notice document lists how each data type is used. It includes in-browser ads on the new tab page, AI chatbots, and "to market our services".

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm glad I use a fork, even if it much more unstable. Kind of want servo to become stable and someone to make a browser based on that.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Kind of want servo to become stable and someone to make a browser based on that.

Maybe that's why Mozilla quit contributing to it.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Igalia is currently working hard on making it easy to use Servo as an embeddable browser engine similar to how Chromium can be used.

The problems of doing that with Gecko, the browser engine that powers Firefox, is main reason why there are so few alternative browsers based on it.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Also because Blink is the best and most advanced engine. The problem of Chromium is only that it need to gut out the Google APIs before it is a valid base for an browser. Vivaldi does it, also degoogled Chromium and even EDGE (but in change filling it with a ton of M$ tracking APIs). The only alternative (Linux only) is the Konqueror Browser with the Grandfather of Blink, KHTML by KDE (German company).

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The problem of using blink is that then you give more power to google. They are the ones developing it, so they can decide what goes in it... cough jpegxl cough...

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[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

Or why do they have a world wide right for anything entered into Firefox.

[–] RiQuY@lemm.ee 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This seems like a great time to install LibreWolf.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Yes, but even more important to avoid sync with an Mozilla account, if you need the sync function (maybe Filen?) (Vivaldi has an own sync EE2E)

[–] wintermute@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

AFAIK the sync is end to end encrypted

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[–] kobra@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Firefox sync is E2EE too (or at least can be, mine is)

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

i think you can have it sync to a self hosted server, also an option.

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I’m switching to Librewolf. I don’t want ads in my browser.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] nomugisan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Capital is the problem, not nationality.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yes, but also non existent US privacy policy. There the users are simply raw material for the benefit of large corporations and user rights an incomprehensible communist phrase, to make America great again. The EU at least put limits to these abuses.

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[–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That website actually promotes Firefox, you know. Not sure it fits this thread.

[–] pipariturbiini@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Also from the "European" recommendations, Vivaldi is Chromium, and Mullvad is Tor, which is Firefox.

[–] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I’m really glad this exists! Thanks for sharing it!

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

anyone up to date on how servo has been doing?

[–] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And Firefox is no longer my browser. Tada.

[–] kixik@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

do you mean you use a more privacy oriented fork like Librewolf, or instead some chrome/chromium derivative or fork?

[–] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Why why why don't they just do like Wikipedia or the Internet Archive does and just come out and ask for donations instead of trying to sneak all this advertising shit into things?

EDIT: Another idea, which I'm sure they'll never consider, is to host actual @thunderbird.net email addresses which could be paid for. People at this very minute are looking for Proton Mail replacements, and this could be one of them . . .

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[–] cheezoid2@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (5 children)

So what’s the next best thing to use, preferably one that supports uBlock?

[–] smpl@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 week ago

Librewolf it comes with uBlock installed.

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago

There is only firefox, chrome, or safari to chose from. I just use a firefox fork.

[–] Auster@thebrainbin.org 7 points 1 week ago

If you're sticking to Firefox-based browsers, Waterfox seems to be the fork closest to Firefox without being controlled by Mozilla.

[–] dai@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I'll be moving to https://github.com/schizofox/schizofox on my x86 machines.

Mobile will be a fork of Firefox.

https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird is a project I'm keeping an eye on, will be a while off being a daily driver.

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[–] markvandijk@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

What's the best alternative? This doesn't sound great.....

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] kionite231@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know, could you explain please

[–] kixik@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

see this other post: https://lemmy.ml/post/26518180/16957376

Hint, look at the date this gets pushed, :)

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No, we all got the pi = march 14 part, but WTF does that have to do with anything?

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

It's a cosmic cabal! The aliens are coming!

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's not just March 14th, it's also our next lunar eclipse (here in the US at least), peak eclipse at about 1:59am...

3.14159

I set alarms in my watch months ago, before ever learning how that date is also going to affect technology and security certificates and shit.

I do hope the weather will be nice early that morning to be able to see the π lunar eclipse at least.

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[–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

https://gitlab.com/ironfox-oss/IronFox

i can suggest ironfox, the fork of mull for android

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Why don't they use the official fdroid repo?

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