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[–] psyklax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 97 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This is the real reason for the ban.

"National security" just translates to "public opinion of the war(s)"

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Its more simplified to "lack of ability to control the narrative" and also "My billionaire masters cant turn a profit from it"

[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

It has diverted traffic and money away from sites such as Twitter, FB and Amazon after TT videos called them out and offered alternatives or avoiding completely/anticonsumerism perspectives.

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[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Mitt Romney might just be the only member of the GOP with at least a single honest bone in his body.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 54 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So that's who the democrats will run in 2028

[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Irritatingly plausible. I'm going to be stoked if we get another election at all though.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We will. A free and fair one, though? Outlook not so good.

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[–] MidWestKhagan@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 week ago

What’s the point of elections when it’s always already pre bought? AIPAC already bought everyone who would run for election; however, something happened on twitter and Trump and his goons are really upset at israel now.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well we'll have an actual primary if there's an election so if he gets through a democratic primary, that's on democrat voters. I also don't think he wants to run.

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

very funny to see the results of the last few dem primaries and still think that voters choose who the candidate will be

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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 40 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, its just nice when they're honest about it.

US republicans will be like: "8 men should own this country and everyone else can die in the gutter". US democrats will be like: "We need to reframe the conversation about the lived experiences of so many of our constituents, and reach solutions that include these realities [policies not different from those above]".

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Democrats are evil fucks too. But not evil enough that I’m going to give Mitt Romney any credit.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

They're evil enough. If complete support for yet another genocide isn't "evil enough" I wonder what might do it.

The least evil fuck is still an evil fuck.

[–] beek@beehaw.org 14 points 1 week ago

This isn’t a statement rooted in honesty or morality. This is saying the quiet part out loud.

[–] Trilobite@lemm.ee 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I guess I am going to give my kids access to my VPN I don't trust the government at all any more

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You should absolutely have your kids use a VPN.

[–] Trilobite@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

Yeah I have it set up on the home network I just never set it up on their cells

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 1 week ago

Palestinians getting to broadcast the horrors visited upon them by zionists is bad. /s

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

So let me get this straight....

The Tiktok ban, that was first proposed in Jan 2020, and was banned from government devices in Dec 2022, was getting first drafts for laws banned in Dec 2022, another law was proposed to block in nationwide in Jan 2023, was further restricted in March of 2023, and was signed into law to banned Tiktok nation wide on April 2023 (to be completely removed by Jan 2025) is solely being done to censor information about a conflict that started in Oct 2023...

Yeah, check outs. 👍

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The law was April 2024, so you know, after October 2023. The sudden political push to get that done instead of stall out line 2020-2023 is what's being talking about.

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[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

If you make the point simpler it works. "We are banning tiktok because it is a social media platform we have no ability to censor" with this in mind it makes sense to say "its because of isreal-palastine" because that is just a facet of not having control over platform censorship.

If you really believe that when they say they are getting rid of tiktok it is for national security you're a fucking rube, they have been taking away our freedoms for decades under the guise of national security, they sure as fuck dont consider it any sort of threat that any of the American social media platform would sell your data do a hostile foreign power. They want it gone because A) they cannot control what spreads on it, and B) their rich owners arnt profiting from it.

If you want to argue that any social media platform dying is a good thing, then i can at least sympathize (thought id argue this isnt a step in the direction of getting rid of social media in general), but if you think banning tiktok is about anything more than corruption you're a rube.

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[–] normanwall@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't think it's the reason

The Israelis have effectively been committing genocide in slow motion for decades

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

The real reason is the American Oligarchs don't like foreign competition to their data collection.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Everyone moving to The Little Red Book (or "RedNote") is creating some very funny interactions, lmao. Super cute honestly

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The second someone starts showing American war crimes they are a security risk. But Americans somehow still believe in free speech.

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[–] CentauriBeau@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (7 children)

What happened to us (Americans)? We used to look down on Soviet propaganda and book burning; congratulating ourselves on our free speech. Now we’re burning books and outlawing news sources that don’t abide by the official propaganda. It’s sickening.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Because our empire is collapsing

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Entropy will not be denied.

Rome always falls to the corruption of its elite run amuck.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Don't forget the lead poisoning. Something else America has in common with the Romans.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

The US has always had propaganda and book burning, it's just really good at projection. Hell, even D&D was attacked for being "satanic."

[–] yetiftw@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

did you miss the red scare? it's always been this way

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

Lol, classic American. Sees Americans doing bad things in America in a way that America has always done: "what are we, a bunch of Russians!"

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

You're moving out of golden age and into the 'find out' stage.

[–] HuntressHimbo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

I.m.o. US media has watered down revolution and resistance to injustice into purely a matter of aesthetics. Our movies, shows, and books constantly recast events to gut the actual historical context. Its why MAGA people can imagine themselves as a sort of resistance, because they are so used to identifying the aesthetics and not the substance of political movements.

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