An interesting documentation on nicotine, btw:
- IMDB (8.4/10): https://m.imdb.com/title/tt10172414/
- Official site: https://knownicotine.com/
- Trailer 1: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NkeUczk75eA
- Trailer 2: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-5wnswT5rg
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DUMB. What is with the Democrat obsession with destroying tobacco?? And promoting pot?
Always trying to get rid of menthols & deliciously flavored tobacco products, shisha. "It might entice kids. Won't someone think of the children?? 🥺" Okay?...so adults just can't have delicious, nice things? Ever?
I understand not directly marketing to kids, which they have done & that's fucked up. Should never be allowed. But don't take our Zin, don't touch our shisha, don't fuck with the vapes, don't ban menthols & other flavors. Just...fucking stop. We're all being tax-raped to death & underpaid; leave our tasty vices alone. You'll straight fuck up the economy. Again.
Ostensibly, the reason for the war on tobacco is a mixture of public health concerns and reducing the economic cost of smoking for the American taxpayer.
This would only lead to people smoking more cigs for the same amount of nicotine...
Nicotine isn't great for you, but the big problem is the smoke.
So this will make health consequences even fucking worse.
So this is already a known thing the tobacco companies use
They gradually make their cigarettes stronger, over the course of a couple years. During this time smokers will tend to stick with their habits instead of reducing the number of cigs they smoke. Thus, they gradually build higher tolerance.
Then, companies gradually reduce their nicotine levels, again over a couple years. During this time, smokers tend to increase their consumption to maintain the nicotine level they’re used to, because otherwise they start getting mild withdrawal symptoms.
Then, once they’ve formed a new habit of smoking more often, the cycle repeats, thus getting them used to ever higher and higher levels.
Notice it doesn’t really matter where the nicotine cap is placed. What we actually need is for the nicotine content to be listed on the box. Companies then wouldn’t be able to get away with reducing it because people would see that their cigarettes are weaker
There's lots of tricks to use.
There's three grades of tobacco:
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Tips
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Mids
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Trash
Tips are the top, trash is the bottom. Cigs are mostly trash (low nicotine) with some mids (average nicotine).
Now, there's an absolute shit ton of processing before it gets to consumer, but just fucking with that ratio changes the nicotine level. But it's not like any company is doing that nationally.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's more than normal variation.
But that's why it's so hard to mark the nicotine level, and why this hypothetical legislation would be hard to implement.
Like, I didn't get into all that because not everyone grew up on a tobacco farm, but there's just a lot wrong with this which is why I wrote it off as a feel-good idea that will never materialize.
Edit:
Or maybe they have intentionally manipulated nicotine levels...
https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/low-nicotine-cigarettes.html
I don't think it would. Same as people replacing their coffee with decaf to kick that habit.
Nicotine is not coffee, it is insanely addictive physically along with a mental addiction to the act of smoking.
But this isn't just for people who want to quit, this is for all cigarettes.
So say this actually happens and a 50% reduction in nicotine. Smokers will smoke twice as many, getting twice the smoke. The carcinogens from the smoke is what's giving people lung cancer, not the nicotine.
Less nicotine a cigarette = more cigs = more smoke = more negative health effects
It ain't complicated
Do you have data on this, or is it speculation? Because I would speculate that the majority of smokers would keep the habit the same and be weaned off nicotine, and only be habituated instead of addicted, making it much easier to kick.
Literally not how it works at all. The body knows the amount of nicotine it wants and the smoker will smoke until that “need” is fulfilled. Weaning off nicotine is easiest in tiny amounts over time, or a few weeks of cold turkey hell.
The US has been gutting vaping as an alternative too, which forced more back on analogs. The US doesn’t want to stop smokers from smoking anyway. Lots of tax revenue.
Best thing too, the “quit” stuff like lozenges, patches, and gum, are often higher nicotine levels than a smoker is used to. The “low” dose products are for pack-a-day smokers and the “high” dose products are for 2-pack-a-day smokers. So smoker tries to quit, can’t, and ends up smoking more cigs when they return.
It’s a vicious cycle, and it seems also a natural method to combat ADHD, so it’s completely possible some people get on cigarettes, suddenly their brain is functioning correctly, and they’re addicted for life twice over.
Feel free to use your favorite internet search engine for further info. That’s what they are there for. (The last bit with ADHD is new-ish? So not sure what data is available there.)
making it much easier to kick.
"Easier"
It does look like there was a HHS study last year that thinks it might help, but it's not linked online
https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/other-tobacco-products/low-nicotine-cigarettes.html
I dunno, I ran into a roadblock when source 17 wasn't linked and can't devote too much time to chasing it down right now.
Just like the anti vaping regulations that have spawned issues such as fake nicotine in an attempt to skirt restrictive regulations and a dangerous blackmarket that is for sale in vape shops plus gas stations out in the open
Fuck Biden and his out of touch antiquated polices
None of this stuff is really Biden.
Dude just isn't capable of being president, his aides have been running shit this whole time. No different than trump except the people doing things in the presidents name.
They want to get "easy wins" so they do things that sound good if you don't think about it and just want to cheer your team.
Neither party wants well informed voters, they want blind loyalists. That is who this is for.
"Lemmee just manufacture a few million more MAGAs on my way out the door..."