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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 15 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

I wonder why nobody is considering the most obvious solution to all this complication around what is NSFW and what is not: Children shouldn't be on these platforms at all to begin with. They shouldn't be anywhere near social media until age 14. Definitely not free roaming everywhere on the internet.

For us adults, I honestly cannot say whether moderation instigated by a company is better than moderation instigated by the users. The devil is in the details. This place isn't moderated by a company and you'd probably think the moderation here is superior to Meta's.

[–] anindefinitearticle@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I disagree with this point.

I used the internet extensively as a minor to socialize and find friends and to be exposed to viewpoints different from those of my peers. If I only had my peers to socialize with, things would have been much worse off for me. I found kind and supportive influences as a minor that kept me away from the hate/conservatism/fascism that many of my classmates descended into. I learned about the world and gained skills that made me a more well-rounded person. I even met up in person with thousands of strangers and had a grand time.

I see the gatekeeping of minors from internet spaces and worry about the impact that would have had on me and my development as a young person. If I hadn't been welcomed as a minor online, I would not have been welcomed anywhere.

That said, I stayed the hell away from corporate spyware like facebook and twitter that only serve to reinforce existing problematic systems, expose people to the toxic IRL social environments that they may otherwise be trying to escape, and amplify the kind of hatred and bigotry that I personally was evading.

I miss the old internet where kids were safe. I don't think that the solution is to ban kids; the solution is to ban platforms and profiteering incentive structures that create unsafe environments. The kids are the canaries in a coal mine. If the canary isn't doing well, you don't just ban it and keep digging: you get the hell out and find somewhere else to be.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 points 12 minutes ago* (last edited 11 minutes ago)

I found kind and supportive influences as a minor that kept me away from the hate/conservatism/fascism that many of my classmates descended into.

Do you think your classmates found those influences from somewhere outside the internet? At least in Europe, the alt-right has been way more efficient at reaching young people online, especially boys and men.

[–] donuts@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Pretty much all social media has a minimum age of 13 in their ToS. So what exactly are you suggesting? Raising it by 1 year?

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

Actually verifying it and punishing the companies if they let underaged people use it. Alcohol stores are also punished when they sell products to children.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This is a terrible idea, and only makes it 10x easier for surveillance capitalism to track, profile, and propagandize the entire population.

This line of reasoning is basically using "won't someone think of the children" fear mongering to hand over the keys to big brother.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 minutes ago

This is a terrible idea, and only makes it 10x easier for surveillance capitalism to track, profile, and propagandize the entire population.

I don't see how that follows. Can you elaborate?

[–] donuts@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago

I personally think this would help, but there's a lot folks online who scream "free speech" when you start talking about verifying age online. And honestly, I don't know a good solution to balance it

[–] Xer0@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

Raise it by 3. Under 16s shouldn't have access to any social media.

[–] roawn@feddit.uk 15 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Posts with LGBTQ+ hashtags including #lesbian, #bisexual, #gay, #trans, #queer, #nonbinary, #pansexial, #transwomen, #Tgirl, #Tboy, #Tgirlsarebeautiful, #bisexualpride, #lesbianpride, and dozens of others were hidden for any users who had their sensitive content filter turned on. Teenagers have the sensitive content filter turned on by default.

Kids wont even know what they will lose with his representation going missing on Instagram. So depressing. Wish that lizard freak the worst.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 9 points 6 hours ago

Wait, Pro-LGBT speech IS NOT allowed!?!?! Holy fucking shit, this isn't a cesspool, it's an execution by firing squad.

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I guess advertisers have no issues with Meta’s changes. Interesting. A few years ago, they’d be falling over themselves to signal that “hate has no place here”. But it is no longer profitable to be LGBTQ+ so let the hateful bell ring.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 26 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Eh. The advertisers will be back to supporting LGBTQ whenever that month of year comes back

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 17 hours ago

This year? Doubt.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 93 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (19 children)

~~LGBTQ+~~ Everyone, but LGBTQ+ people especially need to get the the fuck off of Meta services now, they've showed what side they're on.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 42 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Straight+cis people too. I'm downloading an export of my Facebook info as we speak in preparation for closing it down.

[–] Xer0@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago

Did this about 5 years ago. Can't believe people still use fucking Facebook of all things.

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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 29 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Never used Facebook, never fucking will.

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[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

I was in admin chat on facebook and it was blocking any posts with links to https://lemmy.world/. I was talking to admins about firing up a lemmy instance and leave the FB group as a link to a lemmy community

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