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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I wonder why nobody is considering the most obvious solution to all this complication around what is NSFW and what is not: Children shouldn't be on these platforms at all to begin with. They shouldn't be anywhere near social media until age 14. Definitely not free roaming everywhere on the internet.

For us adults, I honestly cannot say whether moderation instigated by a company is better than moderation instigated by the users. The devil is in the details. This place isn't moderated by a company and you'd probably think the moderation here is superior to Meta's.

[–] donuts@lemmy.world -1 points 55 minutes ago (2 children)

Pretty much all social media has a minimum age of 13 in their ToS. So what exactly are you suggesting? Raising it by 1 year?

[–] Xer0@lemmy.ml 2 points 38 minutes ago

Raise it by 3. Under 16s shouldn't have access to any social media.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 3 points 54 minutes ago* (last edited 53 minutes ago) (1 children)

Actually verifying it and punishing the companies if they let underaged people use it. Alcohol stores are also punished when they sell products to children.

[–] donuts@lemmy.world 1 points 48 minutes ago

I personally think this would help, but there's a lot folks online who scream "free speech" when you start talking about verifying age online. And honestly, I don't know a good solution to balance it

[–] roawn@feddit.uk 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Posts with LGBTQ+ hashtags including #lesbian, #bisexual, #gay, #trans, #queer, #nonbinary, #pansexial, #transwomen, #Tgirl, #Tboy, #Tgirlsarebeautiful, #bisexualpride, #lesbianpride, and dozens of others were hidden for any users who had their sensitive content filter turned on. Teenagers have the sensitive content filter turned on by default.

Kids wont even know what they will lose with his representation going missing on Instagram. So depressing. Wish that lizard freak the worst.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 3 hours ago

Wait, Pro-LGBT speech IS NOT allowed!?!?! Holy fucking shit, this isn't a cesspool, it's an execution by firing squad.

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I guess advertisers have no issues with Meta’s changes. Interesting. A few years ago, they’d be falling over themselves to signal that “hate has no place here”. But it is no longer profitable to be LGBTQ+ so let the hateful bell ring.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 24 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Eh. The advertisers will be back to supporting LGBTQ whenever that month of year comes back

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 14 hours ago

This year? Doubt.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 85 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (14 children)

~~LGBTQ+~~ Everyone, but LGBTQ+ people especially need to get the the fuck off of Meta services now, they've showed what side they're on.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 38 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Straight+cis people too. I'm downloading an export of my Facebook info as we speak in preparation for closing it down.

[–] Xer0@lemmy.ml 2 points 36 minutes ago

Did this about 5 years ago. Can't believe people still use fucking Facebook of all things.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 16 hours ago

I just deleted my old, disused Instagram account I hadn't touched in a long long time. Nothing even worth saving since I never uploaded anything to it. It was the only Meta account I still had around.

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[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago

I was in admin chat on facebook and it was blocking any posts with links to https://lemmy.world/. I was talking to admins about firing up a lemmy instance and leave the FB group as a link to a lemmy community

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 26 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Never used Facebook, never fucking will.

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'm kinda shocked people still actively use Facebook.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Only ~3,000,000,000 people/month.

[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I would take the 3 B number with a pinch of salt. Its 3 B accounts, not unique individuals.

At one point last decade I had 11 seperate Facebook accounts, used for various purposes. They're all deleted now, but my behaviour is not unique. There will be many, many people running multiple accounts, and don't forget bots

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 14 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

Friendly reminder: Deleting your account won't accomplish what you think it will.

Facebook will still keep all data that is associated with other users as per their own disclaimer. They also still keep logs that are "disassociated with personal identifiers. "

So all training can still occur. And understand what while Jane Smith may have deleted her account, they still have all the data it takes to indicate that User 12345 was tagged in photos with John Smith at the Burger King on 404 Fake St. And, because of that, the data that User 12345 had previously provided is ALSO John Smith's data. And Fred Wilkerson since he was at that Burger King once. And so forth.

And ALL that data is still there for training.

So do what you gotta do to make it less appealing to other users. But understand your data is already out there and is never going away. Same with reddit and all other social media (which includes Lemmy).

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 26 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah but you know what? That's still better than actively engaging with their "services".

Eventually, it'll just be bots interacting with themselves, given enough time.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Eventually, it'll just be bots interacting with themselves, given enough time.

It seems like that's a good chunk of it already

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[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 11 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

If you're in the US, sure. If you're in Europe you can compel them to completely delete everything as per the GDPR.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 15 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

And I am sure a company that is now openly training their LLMs on copyrighted materials is going to totally comply with all of that...

One of these days people are going to learn "But it is against the law" doesn't apply to the rich and powerful, law enforcement, or megacorporations.

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