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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Someone on Bluesky last night mentioned Woody Allen for some offhand reason, and some sock puppet account was loudly defending Woody and saying he never did anything wrong and that Soon-Yin was never parented by him or anything like that. Imagine being a shill for Woody Allen of all people.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

So someone chimed in on a subject that was never broached in the first place? It reminds me of the people on reddit who will always pipe in about how mean John Lennon was no matter what the subject about him is.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Literally someone joked "don't Woody Allen me" and this account went off with a bunch of "facts". It was super odd.

When I was on Reddit I was talking about Jian Ghomeshi's sexual abuse charges on r/Canada (before it got overrun by racists), and a sock puppet account sent me the weirdest PM, about how I wanted to "touch the diamond that is Jian's life, but holding a melting diamond in your hands is dangerous" or some such shit. I actually feel it was Jian Ghomeshi because it was so narcissistic and weird. I could of course be wrong, but I really think it was. The wording was just too weird.

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 12 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

In a video someone discussed the average us household income. Someone commented that that number was actually inflated and it would be better to use median. I found the article the OP was referencing and pointed out that it was in fact the median and pointed out a median is a type of average. They argued for far far too long that average exclusively refers to mean, that median "isn't even an expected value" and that they were right and I was wrong because they are an engineer who works with this all day long. I ended up getting ganged up by several different accounts, I eventually screenshotted the Wikipedia page for average and got them to all delete their posts.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 hours ago

Average vs mean vs median is always a clusterfuck argument waiting to happen.

[–] Corno@lemm.ee 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I was talking with someone from the UK about this article that they showed me. They were outraged by it, and I said I don't see what the problem is with it. They were weirdly fixated on the "asylum seekers" part, to which I told them the article says it will apply to vulnerable persons regardless of immigration status, and I asked them why they were fixating so much on this applying to one specific demographic.

This caused them to go on a tirade about "migrants are getting more rights than people who were born in this country" and how they aren't a racist because they married an Italian. They said "it's all about divide and conquer" and I asked them why they care so much about what ethnicity or nationality a person is, over if they're vulnerable and receiving healthcare equality or not. This quickly devolved into them going on about how the UK is "being taken over by migrants". So, I asked them if they knew any of these migrants, if the UK is "being taken over" by them. They said no.

This started from them watching a YouTube video made by some influencer who was getting angry over the same article. I'm more than convinced that social media can have its bad sides.

[–] my_hat_stinks@programming.dev 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I can kind of see their thought processes there. They're sharing right-wing media so they're likely already primed for those biases, plus that article title is intentionally misleading by suggesting asylum seekers will by default get priority over all other patients. It isn't until the sixth paragraph that they admit it's priority care for vulnerable people which is a group that happens to include asylum seekers and undocumented migrants (terms which this writer uses interchangeably, because of course they do). Very poor journalistic integrity even for a rag like this one, imo.

This type of article is intentionally misleading and written primarily to rile up people with poor media literacy. Making people angry makes it easier to manipulate them, and vulnerable groups are naturally less able to fight back so they're an easy target.

In an ideal world after being challenged they would have reevaluated the source and their beliefs. In practice very few people do that and they just get more entrenched instead. Especially if it's someone anonymous online just telling them they're wrong.

[–] Corno@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, it seems like there are a lot of people who will only read the headlines, which when combined with what headline they went with is egregious. Honestly, clickbait such as this is a pet peeve I have with media in general.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Let's give more money to billionaires, they will make us rich too.

[–] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Ah, trickle-down economics. A tale as old as time.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well, definitely arguing with my mom over me going outside in winter with hair that wasn't fully dry, when I didn't have time or I'd miss the bus and be late for college. I usually dry my hair enough that if I cover it with a hood or hat during colder days I'm perfectly fine, but she insists that one of these days going out with wet hair in the cold is gonna get me sick, which has never happened. I ain't changing the habit of not fully drying my hair after I get sick from going out with wet hair and that is the sole cause of me getting sick (so, probably never).

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This happens every time I go outside without a coat during winter. If I'm going to the grocery store, and I'm only outside for 60 seconds, I dont need a coat. Obviously if I was going on a hike then I'd need it.

Where'd this myth even come from about cold causing colds? Its even in the name! I can't imagine how many hours of pointless arguing occurred between parents and children because of it

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd hike across campus in college with wet hair and it would be frozen solid by the time I got to class in the winter. lol

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 4 points 22 hours ago

I'm lucky I don't live in an area where it normally gets cold enough for my hair to freeze during the cold season. Closest I've ever had to that was a miserably cold winter last year. Only subzero winter I've ever been in and I would never wish it even on my worst enemies.

[–] elbowgrease@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My wife and I bought 10 lottery tickets at a time when the pot got up to 300 million or something like that. we were talking about what we would would do with the money once we won and couldn't agree on how many of our friends mortgages we would pay off. we MAY have had some other things going on in a relationship at that time, but it's still one of the stupidest arguments I've ever gotten in.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I like to believe that I would pay off mortgages for immediate family, and buy a house for any immediate members who don't have one. If I have some left over I would think about extended family and friends.

I think I'm with your wife on this one.

[–] elbowgrease@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I really shouldn't respond to this since I'm just rehashing up one of the stupidest arguments I've ever had. but, what you said is actually pretty close to what my position was. we parted ways when it came to the more distant cousins. I suggested a cool hundred K USD out to second cousins 'cause, after all, 300 million doesn't buy as much as it used to

but surprisingly, it didn't really matter because we didn't win the lottery. imagine that. /s.

My lesson learned was that arguing on principle isn't usually worth it

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, when I said "I'm with your wife", I meant physically. No way do I agree with her.

[–] elbowgrease@lemm.ee 3 points 21 hours ago

HA! sick burn

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd make trust funds for them and make it clear that this was it. If you give them cash they will hate you because you gave them only $1,000,000 a year ago and didn't give them more this year.

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[–] Alice@beehaw.org 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A really stupid one was when my older sister started tossing out a bunch of random attacks on my character when I was about to drive her to work. I asked when I ever demonstrated any of these traits and she brought up when I jumped into an argument that had nothing to do with me the night before and supposedly said horrible things.

Anyone who knew me would have known I was in my room with headphones watching the Gravity Falls finale the night before. I think that was the first time anyone failed at gaslighting me, because I was that obsessed with Gravity Falls.

I told her to call a cab to work and she started crying. :/ Like, what did you expect...

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[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I fought with my aunt about "mom jeans." I was telling her it was a style of jeans and she was adament that it was any kind of jeans that a "mother" is wearing.

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[–] lime@feddit.nu 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

it was about nutrition. it started with the fact that proteins, fats and sugars all have different energy densities and so how much weight you gain is dependent on what the food is, which is all fair. but then i made the mistake of saying "your weight won't go up by more than the weight of the food, anyway." and that spiralled out of control completely. apparently that's wrong and you can gain infinite weight from one chocolate bar.

as usual for this person they felt that i refused to take the "holistic" view into account.

a more recent conversation started with them talking about some sort of blood sugar sensor that athletes use and when i said "that's interesting, what's it called?" they started talking about gut microbes.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's almost some truth to it. Certain foods, like salts and carbs, in certain situations, like low salt/carb diets, can have a ripple effect. 100g of carbs, or a few grams of salt, can cause your body to retain water. The effect being that you gained several pounds from eating just a few (hundred) grams of certain foods.

However, for your body to retain that water, you must also consume said water.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

Though even in that case, I'd consider water consumed to be covered under "food".

The only exceptions I can think of are from gaining mass from things other than what you eat. Like tar buildup from smoking, snorting or injecting various substances, boffing something (I think that's what it's called... Up the butt instead of out the butt), things sticking to your skin, absorbing through the skin, or bugs/aliens laying eggs inside you. Maybe getting possessed by a ghost, if ghosts have mass. But I don't think all of those combined would even come close to a single meal, other than extreme cases.

I was curious and looked into how much mass the average adult loses through breathing, and apparently it's at least about 69g (at rest, if you are metabolizing fat).

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

you can gain infinite weight from one chocolate bar.

Eventually you'll turn into a black hole.

β€œholistic”

Aka, "Keep science and evidence out of this"

[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

Well, nutritional science doesn't have a great track record. While a lot of bullshit is justified using the word "holistic", it is also true that nutrition and in general our metabolism are affected by so many factors that a reductionist approach to nutrition more often than not fails to give actionable insights, especially if you move away from very broad statements. It doesn't help that every few years, some core concept of nutritional science is discovered to be the result of lobbying.

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