Cheeto supremo would have put that shit on blast for sure if there was any proof of alien contact. His presidency has eliminated any doubt in my mind that humans have no knowledge of or interaction with extraterrestrial species. That guy can't keep his dumb mouth shut.
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Counterpoint: If I was one of the people in charge of keeping it secret and Trump got elected... I would just "forget" to ever schedule that briefing.
lol forreal.
also why do so many of these conspiracy nuts apparently have no grasp on just how old and how large the universe is? like please tell me how creatures more advanced than humans (which took 4.5 billion years on one planet to evolve enough complexity to even understand space travel) would somehow line up perfectly with our timeline and somehow be close enough and interested enough in us to say hello, but also be super sneaky about it…mmkay
Humans have no sense of scale. We evolved in the context of hunter/gatherers on the African savanna, we intuitively grasp the sorts of numbers and scales that we would encounter there. A few hundred people. A few dozen miles. A human lifetime. Tiny, trivial values on the scale that we're having to deal with even in just our own current everyday civilization. The universe as a whole makes such things unimaginably insignificant - "unimaginable" in the literal sense, we're just not wired for it. We have to invent systems of mathematics to handle that kind of thinking for us.
Yeah. If there are indeed alien intelligences visiting us, they're likely incomprehensible and we have zero chance of doing anything they don't anticipate perfectly and can't handle without difficulty.
yea…theres so many fallacies with ufo conspiracies…its just boring…
like why are these aliens so damn interested in contacting the US…and why do they suck so bad at driving their intergalactic spaceships????
The latest whistle-blower, David Grusch, claimed that many different nations' governments know about the UAPs. He also claimed the first contact was in Italy during Mussolini's dictatorship.
Grusch has legitimate credentials as an intelligence officer, and had clearance from the pentagon to talk about what he did. So there's definitely something interesting going on, at the very least.
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/trump-briefings-232479
That guy that "didn't need" daily briefings? He didn't pay attention long enough to understand what was in front of him.
I'll hold my breath.
Our sales rep is a huge conspiracy person gets sucked into all the YouTube videos. He was excited said they have to tell their under oath.
I said people can lie under oath you know. It blew his mind.
I'm waiting for the government to put up or shut up on this, but I watched the hearing and some of those claims were very, very extraordinary. Just balls out claiming that we recovered ships and non-earth origin biologics on board them, planning to give Congress a list of witnesses to interview in closed sessions etc. It could all be a big lie, but I find it hard to imagine the utility of it.
It could all be a big lie, but I find it hard to imagine the utility of it.
Politicians get positive screen time and headlines acting like they care about 'transparency' in a context that won't effect them politically or their donors financially. They get to say a bunch of open-minded sounding but totally non-committal stuff about 'getting the public the answers they deserve' but they don't have to followup on anything. It's a bipartisan public brownie-points bonanza, plus it's a distraction from more controversial problems they should be addressing so of course they're going 'all-in'.
Yeah, it's free votes from nutbags with very little risk. Everyone involved is "just asking questions". Plus it distracts from actual issues (hottest 3 weeks on record).
Camera technology has advanced so fast we have 4K videos of every battle in Ukraine. 95% of people have a good video camera on them at all times. Some people literally film every aspect of their lives and post it online.
If there were alien spaceships buzzing Earth, it would be in the background of Instagram videos within days. People would capture them inadvertently.
~~The guy is selling a book.~~
EDIT: I was sure I'd read this but on further research that doesn't appear to be the case. I can't find any reference that he's writing or has written a book on the subject. I think what I read is he's following a similar pattern to people over the decades who previously worked in some government position and make similarly understand claims to drum up attention and then publish a book.
Okay, but where I find a hole in this theory is that you've got two other guys at the hearing today who are both in the military and speaking on this. I'm curious if they're related to Grusch in some way.
Those guys as far as I understand are reporting personal experiences with Unidentified Aerial Phenomena. So they probably really did encounter something unusual in the skies.
You're sales rep has never heard of perjury?
Prepare to be whelmed
Cuz he will be holding his breath for so long, we will need to bury him?
Given that they're "Unidentified" aerial phenomena observed during the day to day operations of the US military I'm not particularly surprised congress isn't informed about it every time this happens or "being kept in the dark" as some are putting it. Imagine if every time someone in the national guard looks through binoculars and thought they saw something but couldn't figure out what it was, this was a matter brought before Congress who are supposed to be busy deliberating as democratically elected representatives. There's a line where, without knowing particularly much about how something like this is supposed to operate, I can understand one might expect congress to be informed, enemy aircraft confirmed breaching airspace for example or even a UAP that is so strikingly unusal and incontrovertible that it might need to provoke a military response perhaps?
Claims as bold as this Grusch guy's being withheld would definitely be something to be upset about but there's so far little (in the public realm) with which to assess the likelihood that they're anything but just claims.
I've also read that he appears to have been allowed by the Pentagon to go on record with his claims which would seem to weaken the case that he's out here dropping bombshell secrets no one wanted us to hear. The claims tend to be careful as well, as he doesn't claim personally to have been involved with any of the programs he said existed nor have seen any of the things supposedly recovered, merely saying he's been made aware of them and seen some documents. He didn't repeat all previous media claims in Congress when pressed to do so and has added different and new claims in different interviews.
Cool that such striking testimonies were entered into official record. Future investigations should continue to be interesting, and it's always good to see bipartisan support anywhere in congress. UFOs/UAPs are a fun topic, even if there are still likely terrestrial explanations such as adversarial weapons we don't know about.
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Evidence of alien craft (if true) would affect the globe irregardless of where/who the hearings were/held by, tho.
So the movie Nope was a documentary?
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