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[–] Luminos@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I don’t know the reasons of PrivacyGuides, but there has been a research paper last month about data privacy on Android operating systems. It states that LineageOS is not 100% private because of some Google layers. Maybe that’s the reason ? Here is the paper: https://www.scss.tcd.ie/Doug.Leith/Android_privacy_report.pdf Very interesting, but long to read.

[–] 10_0@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

(i didnt read the linked article) i think that its only lineage with gapps installed, and in that article (which i saw on tech lores podcast) it measured it separately from lineage without gapps installed

[–] tmpod 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I suppose it may be something like that. Would be nice to see a comparison of vanilla Lineage vs Lineage+MircoG vs Lineage+OpenGApps

[–] Blinky@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Tldr;

We find that even when minimally configured and the handset is idle these vendor- customized Android variants transmit substantial amounts of information to the OS developer and also to third-parties (Google, Microsoft, LinkedIn, Facebook etc) that have pre-installed system apps.

We assume a privacy-conscious but busy/non-technical user, who when asked does not select options that share data but otherwise leaves handset settings at their default value.

LineageOS sends similar volumes of data to Google as these proprietary Android variants, but we do not observe the LineageOS developers themselves collecting data nor pre-installed system apps other than those of Google. Lineage is the 2nd best option they studied, e/OS is the best.

[–] adrianmalacoda@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

See my reply to OP, the authors of this report tested LineageOS with Gapps added. LineageOS does not come with Gapps preinstalled, so in my opinion this is not a fair assessment of LineageOS.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ther3e are alternatives, for example /e/, its a degoogled fork of LinageOS, also Replicant, a degoogled Android fork. Others are Plasma Mobile from KDE, CalyxOS, Mobian (Debian for Mobile) and some more, all privacy focused.

[–] rcbrk@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

LineageOS is only "googled" if you go out of your way to install google on it.

This FUD around LineageOS is quite bizarre.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think the problem of Mobile OS is, that most official apps (administrations, banking, etc) are only for Android or for OS with Google layers. Because of this (I can't use other OS than Android on my very basic phone) I don't use my phone for more than for basic tasks (calls, messages, some OpenSource games from F-Droid.....) without any important data stored (also GPS desactivated). Mobile phones generally are not secure or private, very prone to loss, theft or being intercepted, especially in frequent use in public WiFi LinageOS is a valid alternative like other more private distros, but the real risk is the user himself and how and for what he use the Phone