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submitted 1 day ago by Cris16228@lemmy.today to c/linux@lemmy.ml
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I'm currently looking for a new OS, coming from KDE neon and I like it, but the fact I have to FUCKING restart because someone decided to push an OS update that broke my previous install, now the OS freezes my whole PC (never did before!) and I have to restart.

I'm looking for good apps support so Debian? Idk Using it for daily usage (Android/games development) and gaming.

I'm also looking for:

  • Wobbly windows (yes useless but cool lol)
  • Good customization
  • KDE connect support (a must)
  • Krunner or equivalent (MacOS like search)
  • Idk?

Thank you!

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Atomic distros were created to solve exactly that problem. I like Bazzite because it also has seamless background updates (among other reasons).

I'm looking for good apps support so Debian?

Any Debian fork will run .deb packages. But plain Debian is just very vanilla and will be missing a lot of stuff you'll probably want.

Wobbly windows (yes useless but cool lol) Good customization KDE connect support (a must) Krunner or equivalent (MacOS like search)

These are all going to be features of the DE, and you can install any DE on any distro (AFAIK).

[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 1 points 59 minutes ago (1 children)

I meant Debian based OS

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 55 minutes ago

I see. Deb is definitely the most package-friendly.

GNOME combines Mac's "stage manager" and "spotlight" into a single function activated by the Super key (windows key/command). It's really excellent and probably my favorite thing about GNOME.

[–] lumpybag@reddthat.com 1 points 4 hours ago

Check out PikaOS

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

Nixos, never have that break happen again

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

OpenSuSE with default filesystem configuration

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 2 points 1 day ago

or kubuntu

[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Fedora KDE or Linux Mint.

[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yum. Not used to it but it's not bad

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 10 hours ago

Fedora Kinoite is KDE but also atomic, so you can easily roll back from bad upgrades in future.

[–] HumanPerson@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm quite happy with Fedora. It has kde support, many apps (especially with rpmfusion), and is quite stable because it is still a 6 month ish major release schedule. Wobbly windows, kde connect, and krunnuer will definitely work. Good customization is subjective, and honestly I consider c/unixporn to be weird but cool wizardry, but I'm happy with it. One thing to consider is if you have a newer amd CPU with an iGPU being used it will get slow and crash every now and then (few months). It's a bug in the linux kernel starting around 6.10.

[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Good customization is subjective

Yes, but I mean you can customize a lot in settings, themes, icons, etc

I have a 5800x and a 6950 so it should be okay

[–] HumanPerson@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's a kde thing, so I doubt it would be very different than neon.

[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If it doesn't crash for no reason I'm happy with that

[–] dave@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nothing crashes for no reason. Until you identify the reason, you’re employing stochastic problem solving.

[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Except my KDE OS. No idea what causes freezes and sometimes (like yesterday) it happened while idle

[–] dave@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I was being trite but still there is a reason. Idle doesn’t mean doing nothing. Perhaps it’s obscure, perhaps as impenetrable as some combination of machine state and number of milliseconds since 1970 being an even number. But you could try to track it down.

And sometimes the easiest thing is to reinstall from scratch.

[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

The problem started after they pushed an update that broke my install and others too. Reinstalled and started to get these problems, probably due to the new update

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

the Bazzite KDE flavor sounds like what you need

[–] Voltage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Fedora KDE spin might be suitable for you.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

why not arch? it's a fun distro to try if you haven't yet

[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Because I'm used to Debian and the features listed? Krunner, Wobbly windows (useless but heh), full KDE connect support

[–] meekah@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Krunner, wobbly windows and KDE connect are features of KDE Plasma, not Debian. You can install KDE plasma on arch and use all of the things you listed. Arch also has good app support through the AUR. Plus the wiki is called the Linux bible for a reason

[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I know. I'm also used to install package with apt

Is there an arch based distro with KDE support?

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

i mean arch supports kde?

you can even have the automatic arch installer ($ archinstall in the live usb) set up a kde environment just like in the debian installer

[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

EndeavourOS is Arch with an installer and a few utilities. You can install offline and it will use KDE or you can install online and choose KDE. The major difference is whether you need to update after installing.

[–] Klajan@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

I can also recommend EndeavorOS, mostly seamless install even with a Nvidia Optimus GPU (well that one took a bit of research on what to install exactly, not that it's easier on other distros)

[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From all the ones I tried EndeavourOS is the one I liked the most but it doesn't have apt but yum so I have to learn from 0 and it doesn't have Plasma's discover. I tried to install jellyfin package but couldn't find it in my installed apps and I could only run it through command

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Endeavor uses yay and has tons of software. The only other package manager I knew before was apt, but learning yay is super easy. Yay by itself is like apt update; apt upgrade, yay package to search for and install a package, yay -Rns package to remove.

[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 1 points 9 hours ago

I kinda like it, my only "problem" is: It's not Debian so it's not just install a deb file and that's it, most of the programs I install have only a deb file or flatpak and for the latter I have to make my own shortcut (annoying)

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

what's the difference between endeavour and arch with archinstall btw? do they use different repos?

[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's basically Arch with a familiar installer and an extra repo for their system maintenance tools. Also the community is friendlier.

[–] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 1 points 22 hours ago

The main difference is imo the preinstalled ( ery nice) theme /jk

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Everyone is recommending KDE, but forgive me if I'm missing something, I don't see it needing to be KDE support as a requirement on your list?

Any mainstream GNOME distro, eg Fedora, will have all the features you need through extensions (compiz window effect, gconnect for KDE Konnect, GNOME has the search you want by default and supports lots of customisation via shell themes, GTK themes, icon packs and extensions.

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[–] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 3 points 22 hours ago

Why cripple Gnome to something Knomeish when OP is already familiar with KDE and there are gazzillions of KDE distros?

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

Gnome is ugly IMO and the extensions and custom themes to make it pretty break at each and every update. I just don't bother with it anymore. KDE was customized to my liking once and it stays that way through updates without any failure.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Try Aurora DX (it means the developer edition). It's KDE but with a Fedora base and immutability. It means that even if an update breaks something (unlikely but still) you will always have a working system available to fall back to. It does mean that development is meant to be done via containers, but I find this solution to be way cleaner and easier to work with than traditional package conflicts madness. Give it a go.

[–] tortiscu@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It also means updates are just full system images, so no way for a package manager or differential update to mess anything up. It also means no way of downloading tiny differential updates (if I understand everything correctly).

If you don't need DX or would like to switch off of KDE, there are other fedora atomic desktop based distributions available.

Oh right, a distribution is just an image, so switching distributions is as simple as switching the base OS image and rebooting.

[–] polle@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

I also had kde neon and switched to kubuntu. Its really nice and only has minor issues. I also tried opensuse beforehand, which was not a good experience, for example the sound did not work (which is a typical probl, at least says their wiki and the fixes were obsolete, but not documented that they were.) and as a final straw, YouTube video played without hw acceleration, even with codecs installed.

I had less problems with endeavour os (arch), which runs on a second rig as a steamdeck.

[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I (after a lot of prior distro hopping) went from neon to tuxedo OS and have had very few issues, and only one that was major (was my own fault).

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[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (7 children)

you should take a look at TuxedoOS it's KDE with quality control

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