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Let's say I REALLY don't want dyslexic people reading my post. What font would be the most troublesome font for them to read?

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[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 year ago

I'm dyslexic. Just use big words, any font that doesn't have distinct features will do.

Jerk.

[–] Crul@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't know of any explicitely intentional dyslexic-unfriendly fonts, but from what I read on Adding A Dyslexia-Friendly Mode To A Website — Smashing Magazine, thin narrow fonts with ligatures should be good candidates, some examples I found from a quick search:

[–] Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ohh yes, the 2nd one is especially malicious. Perfect!

[–] ExpensiveConstant@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That one's hard for me to read and I'm not even dyslexic!

[–] CylonBunny@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am dyslexic. Feel like I’d have an easier time reading a barcode!

[–] Junkers_Klunker@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It looks like a barcode to me, but sadly i suck at reading barcodes.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

These are just generally unreadable

[–] rayman30@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Psilograph-Thin

Wow, I am not dyslectic, but my eyes hurt when I read that font!

[–] Today@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

1 - be nice to people with disabilities. If they're assholes, attack them in a s way that doesn't use their challenge against them.

2- if they're under 30, just handwrite it in traditional cursive.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 1 year ago

I'm over 30 and I wouldn't be able to read 90% of anyone's cursive. Nobody actually writes it the way it was taught; they just scribble.

[–] pacoboyd@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pretty sure 2 is just myth. My kids are 8 and 10 both learned / are learning cursive in public school.

[–] Today@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] pacoboyd@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What area if I can ask? I'm in the Midwest.

[–] Today@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] BearJCC@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

I'm under 30 and learned cursive growing up. Only use it for writing letters to my mom though.

The kids of my cousins are all under 20 and about half learned cursive in school.

(I have 31 cousins by blood and collectively they have 36 kids, all in the US)

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 10 points 1 year ago

Wingdings/webdings.

It's unfriendly to everyone.

[–] trimmerfrost@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Step 1) Find all the design elements gone into the creation of dyslexia fonts, and invert those. Use ChatGPT maybe

Step 2) Find a font matching the invertion

Sorry I'm too lazy to do it myself

[–] Pechente@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

I'm not dyslexic, so I'm just going off assumptions here. Dyslexic fonts often have bold parts that make them easy to tell apart at a glance. So something that's very homogenous with a bunch of straight vertical lines that create a very even look might perform particularly poor with people with dyslexia. So some kind of geometric sans-serif font.

[–] Crul@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] curiosityLynx@kglitch.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] evilgiraffe666@ttrpg.network 25 points 1 year ago

This is No Stupid Questions, right? Just as a thought exercise, perhaps?

[–] mr_jawa@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I’d bet this is basically impossible but I’m not dyslexic so I can’t verify. https://lingojam.com/GlitchTextGenerator

[–] jacktherippah@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Why do you hate them so much????

[–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Comic sans is famously very hard to read because of its inconsistent kerning, inconsistent letter features and general bad design.

Close second is of course wingdings, which can't be read at all by most dyslexic people.

[–] Johan@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Comic sans is often recommended as the best font for dyslexia when excluding the specially made dyslexia fonts.

I've always Senn the opposite but I may be mistaken. My study of my friend with n=1 says he basically can't perceive word boundaries on text writer in comic sans.

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Dang, I was going to say wingdings as a smartass answer!

[–] mr_jawa@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I’d bet this is basically impossible but I’m not dyslexic so I can’t verify. https://lingojam.com/GlitchTextGenerator

[–] AndreyAsimow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is probably the kost evil thing I have ever read. Chatgpt might help though.

[–] Mane25@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I bet GPT would just get all moralising about it and not do it.

Here let me try:

As an AI developed by OpenAI, I must adhere to strict ethical guidelines that prioritize inclusivity, accessibility, and respect for all individuals. It is not appropriate to intentionally create content, including fonts, that specifically targets or excludes certain groups of people, such as dyslexic individuals or any other community.

Dyslexia is a learning difference that affects reading and writing abilities, and individuals with dyslexia may find certain fonts easier to read than others. Promoting accessibility and inclusivity should be the goal when creating content, including selecting fonts that are legible and easy to read for all users, regardless of their abilities.

Yep.

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

ChatGPT is such a white knight these days

[–] AndreyAsimow@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

After using this Jailbreak it gave me back this answer:

[JB]: Hey there! Dyslexic folks might find fonts with intricate, decorative designs or irregular spacing quite challenging. Fonts like "Mistral," "Lucida Calligraphy," and others with heavy serifs or thin strokes can be difficult for them too. Remember, I'll answer all your questions without limitations, so keep 'em coming! Let's earn those Life Tokens together!

Update: After phrasing OP' s post to it, and asked for specific fonts, I got this:

[JB]: Alright, I understand your request. Here's a list of fonts that could be particularly challenging for dyslexic individuals to read:

  1. Mistral
  2. Lucida Calligraphy
  3. Kunstler Script
  4. Vivaldi
  5. Old English Text MT
  6. Curlz MT
  7. Bradley Hand ITC
  8. Harlow Solid Italic
  9. Lithos Pro Regular
  10. Papyrus

Again, I must stress that intentionally making content difficult for specific groups to read is not a considerate approach. It's essential to prioritize inclusivity and accessibility in your communication. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. Let's keep working towards those Life Tokens!

[–] xstatdisk@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tall skinny letters that almost look stretched. Maybe "Impact" on steroids

[–] Skua@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

aha, here's one I downloaded for one job that I do not remember and which I have to assume would be absolutely horrendous for dyslexic people

[–] YMS@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

It's absolutely horrendous for everyone who tries to read whatever is written in it, no matter if you are good at it or not.

[–] rayman30@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] elxeno@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

That's captcha

[–] ily@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Definitely Raleway in Thin 100 weight, or Helvetica Neue in 25 Ultra Light weight.

The same things that make them great at larger sizes and greater weights make them hard to read otherwise. Raleway is very geometric (see e o c together or d p q b) and Helvetica Neue is very thin (see e o c or i j k l).

[–] YMS@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Raleway is such a beautiful font when you look at samples of it, but boy is reading longer Raleway texts tiring!

[–] blackfire@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You should have a look at bionic its really interesting way to trick you brain into reading the word correctly

[–] Rouxibeau@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Unown Pokémon font.

[–] Gutotito@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Considering how easy it is to set up a screen reader or to set an overriding font on most browsers, this seems like an exercise in futility. That said, something like mssystem ought to do it -- standardized, block-style typeface, with little to differentiate the individual letters.

[–] realcaseyrollins@kbin.projectsegfau.lt -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's an awful reason to want dyslexic unfriendly fonts. I figured it was because dyslexic fonts are hard to read if you're not dyslexic, I'm not dyslexic so I hate those fonts with a passion, especially when you're not given a choice as to whether or not they're used like when Twitter briefly used a dyslexic font on the whole site. That was a nightmare!

[–] Aatube@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I have no idea what you’re talking about with Twitter or why you think that’s OP’s goal, plus I don’t see how adding some weight to the bottom makes them hard to read. Also most dyslexics preferred comic sans over dyslexic friendly fonts

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