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hey nerds, I'm getting myself a new personal laptop as a treat, but I very much do not want windows 11 shitting it up. Is there a linux distro with caveman-compatible instructions for installation and use? I want to think about my OS as little as possible while actually using it.

I've got one friend who uses mint, but I've also seen memes dunking on it so who knows. I actually really only know what I've seen from you all shitposting in other communities

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 8 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

The process for installation is more or less the same for all of them.

Linux Mint and PopOS are the "go to" suggestions. I really don't like the way either of them look. I'm partial to GNOME for aesthetics and ease of use.

Bazzite comes with most of the stuff you will want pre-loaded, and also the cool Steam Deck Gamescope interface. It's the only one I've used with seamless background updates like you might be accustomed to on Android or iOS. That's my recommendation.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 5 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Currently using Bazzite as my main OS on my laptop, and it works pretty good, the ostree setup has prevented me from manually installing several things though :/

[–] darreninthenet@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

What's this ostree setup thing please? Was thinking of trying Bazzite but am not yet a super experienced user so trying to understand any issues beforehand...

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It's not that bad once you learn how to layer, and use distrobox

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[–] R3D4CT3D@midwest.social 44 points 1 day ago

memes dunking on mint are irrelevant. use what works for you & ignore the noise.

personally, mint lmde, based on debian, might be worth a once over. sounds like the stability aspect might be up your alley.

[–] arc@lemm.ee 1 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Ubuntu. There are mixes of it but out of the box Ubuntu is about as straightforward a dist to install as possible and it is well supported.

That said "new laptop" and Linux are not always a match made in heaven. You might try it from a boot stick and confirm that things like the GPU, touch screen, touchpad, fingerprint reader, USB C / Lightning all work properly.

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[–] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Linux mint, Debian, Fedora

PopOS if you are into gaming

[–] azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

How is Debian beginner friendly? Quite far from it imho

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[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 6 points 22 hours ago

Mint or Zorin

[–] glans@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

mint

  • generally a solid choice

  • you have a friend who uses it! big advantage

people who make memes about linux distros are in a lot deeper than you want to be. they have different goals.

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[–] Father_Redbeard@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pop!_OS is neat. I've been running it on my desktop and laptop for over a year now. I like that it doesn't look like Windows and has enough difference to it to not be a macOS clone either. Plus I think System76 is doing some great things with hardware design.

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[–] 7rokhym@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

I'm very impressed by the work by the Elementary OS team. Linux is a beast to figure out, and while I've used Linux for 30 years, I remember how frustrating getting started was. I use Pop!_OS on my desktop machines today and Debian or Ubuntu for other machines and I've used dozens of desktops, but Elementary really does just work (and also also happens to be Debian / Ubuntu based).

It has the easiest install process, trouble free device support, and it starts you with guardrails that keep from breaking things, but can be turned off as you figure it out. Very Mac inspired experience, so not completely intuitive from Windows, but the reality of Linux is that you are going to change distros over time, or even use multiple as each do a better job at dealing with niche requirements. Certaintly not the one size that fits no one that is the current Windows 11 debacle.

https://elementary.io/

Edit: Wine math last night, it was summer of 1994 so 30 years, not 35 😅. It was on my new AMD 486DX4/100 with VLB and getting X to work was no picnic. A friend gave me the CD ROMs so at least I wasn't using dialup to download it.

[–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

You used Linux two years before it was released?

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Linux isn't even 35 years old ...

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[–] gerdesj@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago

I'll drop this: https://www.techradar.com/best/best-linux-distros It's written by an actual journo and not a bunch of nerds in nerdville!

Getting into Linux is a bit like Windows back in the day - interesting and a lot of fun ... and rather nerdy. My first Windows version was 1.0 and my last was 7. Mind you I do run a MS Silver Partner and worry about a lot of Windows servers and desktops but my daily driver is Linux.

Mint is a great choice, even though it isn't mentioned in the article I linked because you get a great community, which is pretty important. Its basically Ubuntu and therefore Debian too, so a lot of howtos will work.

I personally rock Kubuntu but I have a requirement for enterprisey stuff - ESET and Veeam and AD integration and all that. I also get Secure Boot out of the box and not all Linux distros work with that.

Your smart new laptop will have Secure Boot enabled so you will have to deal with that if you deploy a distro that doesn't. So with say Arch, you will need to turn it off or learn how to sign your kernels etc and that is not a beginner topic! I suggest you turn off Secure Boot if your chosen distro doesn't support it, rather than insisting on it. Its a nice to have but not the most important security feature ever.

You might want to show a bit of ankle and try out a few to start with. Most distros have a live CD that you can boot and try out first. I suggest trying out Mint, Ubuntu and Kubuntu. That gets you three modern interfaces to play with.

If you are into gaming then it kooks like Pop!OS would be a good place to start instead.

There is no real best option - it's what suits you and you have choice.

[–] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pop OS has been pretty pain free for me

[–] michael@lemmy.chrisco.me 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

PopOS or Mint are probably the best for new users.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 10 points 1 day ago

I'm going to go out on a limb and say fedora silverblue or bazzite

Basic user? Use flat packs and enjoy easy graphics support, as well as all of the windows compatibility for gaming

Advanced user? Learn to do things in pods/containers or distrobox, it's easy even if the quick start docs aren't great (I can find my cheat sheets if anyone is going down that road)

Pro: most stuff just works, and it's harder to config yourself into a corner you have to research your way out of

Cons: normal Linux install guides need to be modified a bit, it's not hard but you do have to learn how to do it

[–] savvywolf@pawb.social 9 points 1 day ago

I think Mint is good enough. People will dunk on anything popular.

[–] Cornflake@pawb.social 9 points 1 day ago

I really like Fedora. Swapped to it a few months ago, my first time using Linux, and I've since only been using the Linux machine. With the KDE Plasma spin, it really is a near 1:1 UI to Windows.

[–] KrispeeIguana@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

What spec of laptop are you thinking of getting?

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[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Debian all day...

All these shiny new distros promising to make things easier and better... But nothing is easier and better than 30 years of rock solid stability and support.

Depending on how new the laptop is, it might not work on debian stable. Check your compatibility

From personal experience with a new laptop, the intel meteor lake platform didnt work well with debian stable

[–] Norin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’ve been using Mint and Pop!_OS on two different machines for a few years.

Neither has really required much from me as the user, although I have needed to use the terminal once on each of them.

Personally, I really like the way Pop does window tiling and workspaces.

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 1 points 18 hours ago

Generally I agree with everyone else, Linux Mint is great.

However, if you really want to not worry at all, you could just buy a laptop from e.g. Tuxedo or System76. They come with Linux preinstalled (I think in the case of Tuxedo at least, you even have a choice of which Linux Distro?), and are guaranteed to have no hardware "difficulties" with Linux, i.e. even if you put another distro on it, you won't encounter driver issues.

(Those have become very rare anyways, but do put a damper on the "Firsttime Linux Experience" if you do encounter them...)

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 day ago

mint is probably where you want to be. if you have performance issues with mint, consider MX Linux, AntiX, and EndeavourOS, in that order.

[–] loanrangerofpeanuts@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I can’t disagree with mint being a good distribution, because it is.

I personally think for someone just starting out in Linux that an immutable distribution like fedora silverblue (gnome) or kinoite (kde) is the safest route to take. They’re difficult to break. I personally use bazzite on my framework laptop and it’s basically hassle free. Not for everyone, but they work well.

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[–] DesolateMood@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

Any Debian/Ubuntu or fedora based distro will do you fine. I personally ran PopOS when I built my computer earlier this year and didn't have any issues with it

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Don't get mint if you'll get a remotely capable laptop or plan to game on it. Its so called 'modern' desktop environment (wich still defaults to the old X window system) feels awful to use imo and while the 'retro' ones are better there's no point in using them on a new laptop. Choose a distro that ships with KDE, GNOME, or a wlroots based desktop environment.

I've also had driver issues with it that didn't happen with Ubuntu or arch.

Pretty much every distro has a caveman compatible installer.

[–] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The first time in installed mint I ruined the partitions on my laptop. But that was on me.

Look at screenshots of default interfaces and pick your fave bug distro. Can't go wrong with fedora, Ubuntu, mint, pop_os etc. mint would be good since you have a friend who uses it. When you want to know how to do something you can ask.

I run arch btw

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora or one of the offshoots like Mint or Pop.

As long as you don't go too far into the weeds with Arch, Silverblue or NixOS, You're probably going to have a pretty decent experience, as long as you don't dig too far under the hood too early most things that you're going to want to try are just going to work out of the gate.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

TuxedoOS has been seamless, runs KDE, and all updates are checked for compatibility

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