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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 17 points 17 hours ago

I think it was revealed several times already in the past. Few examples out my hat:

  1. When it was revealed how little they pay artists

  2. When they tried to corner the podcast market

  3. When they gave Joe fucking Rogan two hundred and fifty fucking million dollars for an exclusive deal

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 14 hours ago

I don't pay for Spotify, but if I do pay for music then I would choose Tidal

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

But I am grateful for independent journalism, which is now my main hope for the future.

Well guess who's in control of eyeballs on those journalists?

Social media companies, who have clear incentives to deprioritize such content and have repeatedly shown they do.

Let’s reclaim music from the technocrats. They have not proven themselves worthy of our trust.

While I agree with the article, I have issue with this line. These are not technocrats, they are "leaders" willing to make companies and their products objectively worse in the name of short term profits. These aren't 'technical experts put in charge,' they are greedy, spineless pigs.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

I don't think this is earth shattering news. These companies identify when the audience is barely paying attention (to content and ads) and spits out the cheap stuff. I watch fly fishing and fly tying videos on YouTube and often fall asleep with it on. Then I wake up to the third hour of a professional bass fishing tournament. It happens a lot

[–] Boozilla@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Many of my friends use it. I'm old school and just keep a collection of mp3s on multiple devices for backup.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (8 children)

It's all but impossible to purchase an mp3 anymore. Anywhere you can theoretically buy music does everything it can to lock you in to their ecosystem and prevent you from accessing your music outside of it.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 2 points 16 hours ago

I've bought a ton of music off bandcamp and qobuz. Definitely not mp3 tho, not when lossless versions are also available

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 day ago (13 children)

I believe that Bandcamp is doing a pretty good job with it. But you can always sail the seas

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[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

No idea why you would think it's hard to buy MP3s. I've never had a problem buying any, just go to the big name FAANG companies' music store webpages or Bandcamp for FLACs. No DRM on any that I bought.

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[–] Uschteinheim@lemmy.world -3 points 16 hours ago

I just recently discovered a band on Soundcloud that has amazing tracks but they all have the familiar feeling of good songs being listened to decades ago, with the voice of the singers similar to that of famous singers of all genres. This is the band in question. [(https://soundcloud.com/flowerpunkhobo)]

I think it's AI generated music from previous songs from the past.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I didn't know this, but it makes sense. One of my biggest complaints about streaming (Pandora is guilty of this, too) is that anyone with a copy of Ableton and a mediocre talent can crank out tracks barely modifying the base toolset. I tend to listen to a lot of variants of electronic music. 95% of the music is absolute crap. 4.5% is tolerable. And 0.5% might end up in my playlist. Less tan 1:100/songs. I have no doubt that “band” or artist names were made up to crank something out, abandoned, and started up under a different name to churn out more boring samesies hoping for a few plays in one of those “made for you” playlists.

So the service doing this for themselves and enabling it for profit isn’t surprising.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

This ratio has been true of music forever. We have always depended on filters to get to the good stuff. Used to be access to recording studios (hence labels fucking everyone), then DJ’s setting taste (had its own problems). Pick a period of time there’s always a group or economic filter separating wheat from the chaff (not perfectly but generally successfully?) which makes it hard for independent/lesser knows to break through.

Now everyone can record and publish easily, so it’s about finding shortcuts or tricks to game the system and get ahead. Or, as always, just get lucky 🤷‍♂️

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Completely agree. I had this exact discussion not too long ago about the recording industry 20+ years ago - or at least before the advent of widely available mp3 downloads. The recording industry and DJ/Radio was and still is an awful tyranny that plays kingmaker and squeezes every possible cent out of fan and artist alike while telling the fan what they’re supposed to consume and the star what they’re supposed to sound like.

The upside to that content filter was that some genuinely good music got made and put on albums where both A and B sides were good to great. The downside is that a ton of artists never had a chance at being heard who might be just as good or might have shifted the genre, added to the repertoire, yet the music landscape was more monochromatic.

IMO there was a lot less chaff 30 odd years ago because they got filtered hard. But consumers were also forced to listen to the billboard top whatever all the time.

Now with affordable tools readily available and the ability to easily upload music to various streaming services the production of music has been democratized. This is good in the sense that it lets more people be heard. It’s also not so good because the ability to climb to the top is far far harder, far fewer will make any real money, and for every good single or A side there’s a thousand B side throwaways.

[–] Prime_Minister_Keyes@lemm.ee 1 points 18 hours ago

Yeah I guess it's always been this way. Does anyone remember the Captain Oblivious mp3 "mixtapes" he used to put out regularly, like 20 years ago? Indie and underground music. Rule of thumb, I would listen to only about 1 in 20 songs more than once.

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[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 62 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

For ease of reading, the investigation he refers to:

https://harpers.org/archive/2025/01/the-ghosts-in-the-machine-liz-pelly-spotify-musicians/

In short: fake artists with stock music (changing labels and other camouflage applied). Likely goal: to depreciate streaming counts for actual artists and increase profit margins.

What I uncovered was an elaborate internal program. Spotify, I discovered, not only has partnerships with a web of production companies, which, as one former employee put it, provide Spotify with “music we benefited from financially,” but also a team of employees working to seed these tracks on playlists across the platform. In doing so, they are effectively working to grow the percentage of total streams of music that is cheaper for the platform. The program’s name: Perfect Fit Content (PFC). The PFC program raises troubling prospects for working musicians. Some face the possibility of losing out on crucial income by having their tracks passed over for playlist placement or replaced in favor of PFC; others, who record PFC music themselves, must often give up control of certain royalty rights that, if a track becomes popular, could be highly lucrative. But it also raises worrying questions for all of us who listen to music. It puts forth an image of a future in which—as streaming services push music further into the background, and normalize anonymous, low-cost playlist filler—the relationship between listener and artist might be severed completely.

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[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Bandcamp is the way to go and Tidal if you really need streaming.

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[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago (6 children)

One of the best thing to do is to pirate almost all of your music and then reward the creators by going to their shows, buying them shirts or even CDs (you can also rip physical copy if piracy is not a thing)

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Or buy off Bandcamp on Friday's. But also support local and developmental acts

[–] Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 1 points 19 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 13 hours ago

On Bandcamp Fridays, Bandcamp waives their revenue share and passes the complete funds directly to artists.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Bandcamp usually gives all the proceeds of sales directly to the band on Fridays

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[–] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 47 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Pirate the music, use ListenBrainz (which is FOSS) to analyze your listening behavior and make recommendations

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