What a nightmare to find yourself in. Poor guy.
Manslaughter charges on Baldwin never made sense to me. Who the fuck gives a loaded gun to an actor on set, and how the hell is he supposed to know.
this post was submitted on 24 Dec 2024
57 points (96.7% liked)
Movies
7602 readers
391 users here now
Welcome to Movies, a community for discussing movies, film news, box office, and more! We want this to be a place for members to feel safe to discuss and share everything they love about movies and movie related things. Please feel free to take part and help our community grow!
Related Communities:
!books@lemmy.world - Discussing books and book-related things.
!comicbooks@lemmy.world - A place to discuss comic books of all types.
!marvelstudios@lemmy.world - LW's home for all things MCU.
While posting and commenting in this community, you must abide by the Lemmy.World Terms of Service: https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/
-
Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, ableist, or advocating violence will be removed.
-
Be civil: disagreements happen, but that doesn’t provide the right to personally insult others.
-
Spam, self promotion, trolling, and bots are not allowed
-
Shitposts and memes are allowed until they prove to be a problem.
Regarding spoilers; Please put "(Spoilers)" in the title of your post if you anticipate spoilers, as we do not currently have a spoiler tag available. If your post contains an image that could be considered a spoiler, please mark the thread as NSFW so the image gets blurred. As far as how long to wait until the post is no longer a spoiler, please just use your best judgement. Everyone has a different idea on this, so we don't want to make any hard limits.
Please use spoiler tags whenever commenting a spoiler in a non-spoiler thread. Most of the Lemmy clients don't support this but we want to get into the habit as clients will be supporting in the future.
Failure to follow these guidelines will result in your post/comment being removed and/or more severe actions. All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users. We ask that the users report any comment or post that violates the rules, and to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
Seriously. I see so many people in other threads bitching about how the rich never get held accountable and I don't disagree but that was NOT the issue here.
In movies they do take after take after take. They fire the gun, hand it off to an armorer, get it back, fire, repeat. I've watched it happen, a lot. And I get it, people think the actor should be opening and checking every round before firing every time, and yes that is conventional firearm wisdom that does not work in that scenario.
That's why you hire experts to ensure this process is done safely and the armorer did not do that, period. And it should be pointed out that this process is followed in movies and TV shows over and over again safely, this time it did not happen and that is squarely on the fault of the armorer.
The armorer was especially incompetent and lazy. Nic Cage walked off the set of the first film she was armorer for.
She got 18 months in prison for this stupid shit.
The people I've seen saying it's his fault say it's because he was involved in production as well as acting in the film. At the most though, that sounds like negligence, not full on manslaughter. There's something to be said for holding the owners accountable for any accident that injurs or kills a worker or customer, but Baldwin just isn't that level of in charge
Exactly, there were a dozenish producers on that movie, he was the only one charged.
It's not negligence on his part unless he directly hired her knowing she was negligent.
As I recall, Baldwin wasn't charged simply because he pulled the trigger. He was also a producer and so was involved in hiring the armorer in the first place.
I don't have an opinion on how the case should have turned out, it's just not so silly to bring the charges as is commonly assumed.
There were a dozenish producers on that movie, which ones were responsible?
Don't know. I'm just saying it wasn't as silly as it commonly seems.
Well if they released the org charter we could trace it from armorer to the head guy.